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Instead of all that complexity, why not just expand the small deposit to other items as well? If people are willing to gather bottles for the deposit, let them

Instead of all that complexity, why not just expand the small deposit to other items as well? If people are willing to gather bottles for the deposit, let them gather other plastic waste as well. In fact, it could be as simple as charging/redeeming based on weight.

aurizon 7y ago
People being larcenous, it needs both a carrot AND a stick to make it work. Simple cheap methods will allow shirkers to avoid the intent of full compliance driven by a high return fee with the bar code hoopla to defeat people who return fake old packages with only the bar code to identify it. With a 120 cent bottle worth 50 cent refund and inductry making fake bottle would soon emerge. NO? Yes. When they had a wolf bounty with a fee paid for each wolf killed, they said just bring us the ears = less weight. Immediately a fake wolf ear industry appeaed as civil serpents did not look closely at rotting stinking wolf ears returned. After a few months, the fraud was discovered. So the 100% link of customer ID, coupled with serial nunbered bottle ID as well allow an electronic system to verify the buyer, the product and the return. Of course the cutomer migth want to avoid this by having a friend buy it and toss the bottle, but then a street person would m find and return and would get the rebate, but that would also show who tossed it away and a $50 fine would go to the buyer. If they did not care about that $50, being rich dogs, then that fine would help the compliance business. We must face the physical reality of our trash risks overwhelming our society - look at Italy, where local trash mafia build monster trash piles in the face of weak and crooked politicians. https://www.google.com/search?q=italian+garbage+crisis&oq=italian+garbage+crisis&aqs=chrome..69i57.6143j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=italian+garbage+crisis&oq=it...
- aurizon 7y ago
  I meant a 10 cent bottle worth 50 cents refund. Plenty enough to drive a fake bottle industry...

aurizon 7y ago

People being larcenous, it needs both a carrot AND a stick to make it work. Simple cheap methods will allow shirkers to avoid the intent of full compliance driven by a high return fee with the bar code hoopla to defeat people who return fake old packages with only the bar code to identify it. With a 120 cent bottle worth 50 cent refund and inductry making fake bottle would soon emerge. NO? Yes. When they had a wolf bounty with a fee paid for each wolf killed, they said just bring us the ears = less weight. Immediately a fake wolf ear industry appeaed as civil serpents did not look closely at rotting stinking wolf ears returned. After a few months, the fraud was discovered. So the 100% link of customer ID, coupled with serial nunbered bottle ID as well allow an electronic system to verify the buyer, the product and the return. Of course the cutomer migth want to avoid this by having a friend buy it and toss the bottle, but then a street person would m find and return and would get the rebate, but that would also show who tossed it away and a $50 fine would go to the buyer. If they did not care about that $50, being rich dogs, then that fine would help the compliance business. We must face the physical reality of our trash risks overwhelming our society - look at Italy, where local trash mafia build monster trash piles in the face of weak and crooked politicians. https://www.google.com/search?q=italian+garbage+crisis&oq=italian+garbage+crisis&aqs=chrome..69i57.6143j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=italian+garbage+crisis&oq=it...

aurizon 7y ago
I meant a 10 cent bottle worth 50 cents refund. Plenty enough to drive a fake bottle industry...