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At work we avoid package manager altogether following the mantra that the best package manager is no package manager at all. All the software is installed in a

by siscia 7y ago

At work we avoid package manager altogether following the mantra that the best package manager is no package manager at all. All the software is installed in a global directory /cvmfs and distribute to all the clients using FUSE and simple http servers. Then different departments have ownership of different subpaths. General software that can be useful to everybody is installed in /cvmfs/sft.cern.ch software that is useful to only a specific collaboration is installed in, as an example, /cvmfs/lhcb.cern.ch

secure 7y ago
Thanks for sharing, this sounds cool! I hadn’t heard of cvmfs, but we use a similar system at work, and it works really well.
- siscia 7y ago
  Indeed, it is one of the, I would say, key technology developed at CERN that we were unable to push enough in the industry. What system do you use at your place?
  - secure 7y ago
    Learn more at https://landing.google.com/sre/workbook/chapters/eliminating-toil/#case-study-2-decommissioning-filer-backed-home https://landing.google.com/sre/workbook/chapters/eliminating...
    - oneplane 7y ago
      Slightly off-topic, but do you happen to know what Google uses to draw those flow charts? I've seen that format all over but I never figured what they use to draw them.
      - secure 7y ago
        I have no idea, sorry! Could it be OmniGraffle?
      - Mathnerd314 7y ago
        The PNG metadata says "Adobe Illustrator CC 22.1 (Macintosh)", so I would say that's what they used. Although they could have used Adobe to convert from another tool, the use of Macintosh suggests a non-technical role.
        oneplane 7y ago
        Yeah, I figured it was used to post-process it or something, but perhaps they simply have a diagramming department that uses that.
marmaduke 7y ago
I think this sort of setup is frequently found in HPC systems with lots of compute nodes. Tons of software installed into a NFS share, so the nodes can be reimaged easily with no breakage of user software (ideally). Our /soft mount is at 200 GB for a small group after 8 years operating.

by siscia 7y ago

secure 7y ago

Thanks for sharing, this sounds cool! I hadn’t heard of cvmfs, but we use a similar system at work, and it works really well.

siscia 7y ago
Indeed, it is one of the, I would say, key technology developed at CERN that we were unable to push enough in the industry. What system do you use at your place?
- secure 7y ago
  Learn more at https://landing.google.com/sre/workbook/chapters/eliminating-toil/#case-study-2-decommissioning-filer-backed-home https://landing.google.com/sre/workbook/chapters/eliminating...
  - oneplane 7y ago
    Slightly off-topic, but do you happen to know what Google uses to draw those flow charts? I've seen that format all over but I never figured what they use to draw them.
    - secure 7y ago
      I have no idea, sorry! Could it be OmniGraffle?
    - Mathnerd314 7y ago
      The PNG metadata says "Adobe Illustrator CC 22.1 (Macintosh)", so I would say that's what they used. Although they could have used Adobe to convert from another tool, the use of Macintosh suggests a non-technical role.
      - oneplane 7y ago
        Yeah, I figured it was used to post-process it or something, but perhaps they simply have a diagramming department that uses that.

marmaduke 7y ago

I think this sort of setup is frequently found in HPC systems with lots of compute nodes. Tons of software installed into a NFS share, so the nodes can be reimaged easily with no breakage of user software (ideally). Our /soft mount is at 200 GB for a small group after 8 years operating.