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How is treating lies as if they were truth any form of legitimate discourse? Especially when the lies are specifically crafted to undermine democracy? Any dur
by toss1 7y ago
How is treating lies as if they were truth any form of legitimate discourse? Especially when the lies are specifically crafted to undermine democracy?
Any durably functioning society has means to shun & shed liars & those who work to destroy the society. Treating rules as absolute rarely works well.
- syshum 7y agoThe biggest problem we have over Fake new and "lies" is too many people associate opinions and feelings with facts, and if anyone opposes those opinions or feelings then they are "Denying their reality" or "Their Truth" Further even factual "truth" should always questioned, debated, and explored, no one gave Google the power to say what is "Truth" and then to expel any other idea that challenges said "Truth" that is dangerous for society
- toss1 7y agoIndeed, far too many confound feelings vs facts. Of course truths should be debated, there is a difference between useful debate and shouting or deceit. To paraphrase Asimov, we should well remember that democracy does not mean that Alan's ignorance is equal to Bob's truth. It has been well demonstrated that trolls can easily and consistently derail even sound scientific discussions, destroying the discussion and even the forum, if allowed. One only need to look her at HN to see how much filtering & moderation work is required to maintain a valid discussion. Individuals have better discussions than mobs. There is no basis to think that large scale discussions need less filtering & moderation than tight communities, yet even this obvious concept is fought here...
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