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So you can't stand to live in a place where many people don't think the way you think, yet you'd probably appreciate a more "diverse" city? You appreciate plac

So you can't stand to live in a place where many people don't think the way you think, yet you'd probably appreciate a more "diverse" city? You appreciate places like San Francisco because while others may look different, they think the same. That's fine, people are more comfortable around those who agree with them; but quit kidding yourself.

phil248 7y ago
The comment you are replying to explicitly mentioned a "hostile state government", none of the ax-grindy stuff you're bringing up.
jdavis703 7y ago
That's an uncharitable interpretation of the OP. It's not that people think different, it's that people are actively discriminated in Atlanta (well it's less an Atlanta problem and more a Georgia problem). For context I write this as an African American living in the Bay Area with family that's based in Atlanta. For example as a Black person I know my vote won't count for much in Georgia, and that the state is actively working to disenfranchise it [0]. I also know that I won't have the ability to plan my family [1]. I know I might get weird looks if I'm in a non-heteronormative relationship [2]. So the problem most people have with "red" states isn't that people love God, love cops and love pickup trucks, it's that these areas actively working to restrict our "blue" freedoms. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/14/stacey-abrams-voter-suppression-campaign-states https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/14/stacey-abram... 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/heartbeat-bill-georgia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/heartbeat-bill-georgia... 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/tennessee-internet-ministers-gay-marriages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/tennessee-internet-min... (Note, this is about Tennessee, but similar attitudes pervade the South)
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- irq11 7y ago
  You think your vote counts in the bay area? Say what you will about voter suppression in Atlanta, but a vote counted there is worth a lot more than a vote counted in California. Flip Georgia blue, and you’re making real change.
  - jdavis703 7y ago
    It counts for a lot in the CA statehouse vs what it would be in GA. That said at the federal level, my vote is largely meaningless. But for the majority of my voting life I've had a bifurcated federal government that gets nothing done. So from my vantage the state is where real policy is coming from anyways.
- refurb 7y ago
  SF tore down a major black community within the city (Filmore) and its policies have resulted in an exodus of blacks except for some impoverished communities.
munificent 7y ago
This is a disengenuous argument. Even people who genuinely like diversity are not obligated to want to live near all possible kinds of people. I like diversity, but I don't want to live next to neo-Nazis, anti-vaxxers, serial killers, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
- refurb 7y ago
  So you’re lumping in Republicans with “Nazi’s, anti-vaxxers and serial killers”?
  - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
    No, but they are related. Instead of nazi say with white power christians, and anti-vaxxers seems to have started out as much more liberal dems but now it's connected up with conservative religious rights. Serial killers might be a reference to mass shootings by conservative men posting republican talking points before their mass shootings. Of course not all republicans are like these things. But a significant number of republicans support those views, especially the belief in white power politics.
    - shijie 7y ago
      Wow do you believe everything you read on Reddit?
      - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
        I don't think all republicans are like that, but the people that do are increasingly finding a place in that party, and that's terrible of course. You have people like this Washington state Senator who literally is saying exactly these things. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/14/rep-matt-shea-endorsed-training-child-soldiers-for/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/14/rep-matt-shea-...
    - whenchamenia 7y ago

phil248 7y ago

The comment you are replying to explicitly mentioned a "hostile state government", none of the ax-grindy stuff you're bringing up.

jdavis703 7y ago

That's an uncharitable interpretation of the OP. It's not that people think different, it's that people are actively discriminated in Atlanta (well it's less an Atlanta problem and more a Georgia problem). For context I write this as an African American living in the Bay Area with family that's based in Atlanta. For example as a Black person I know my vote won't count for much in Georgia, and that the state is actively working to disenfranchise it [0]. I also know that I won't have the ability to plan my family [1]. I know I might get weird looks if I'm in a non-heteronormative relationship [2]. So the problem most people have with "red" states isn't that people love God, love cops and love pickup trucks, it's that these areas actively working to restrict our "blue" freedoms. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/14/stacey-abrams-voter-suppression-campaign-states https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/14/stacey-abram... 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/heartbeat-bill-georgia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/heartbeat-bill-georgia... 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/tennessee-internet-ministers-gay-marriages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/tennessee-internet-min... (Note, this is about Tennessee, but similar attitudes pervade the South)

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irq11 7y ago
You think your vote counts in the bay area? Say what you will about voter suppression in Atlanta, but a vote counted there is worth a lot more than a vote counted in California. Flip Georgia blue, and you’re making real change.
- jdavis703 7y ago
  It counts for a lot in the CA statehouse vs what it would be in GA. That said at the federal level, my vote is largely meaningless. But for the majority of my voting life I've had a bifurcated federal government that gets nothing done. So from my vantage the state is where real policy is coming from anyways.
refurb 7y ago
SF tore down a major black community within the city (Filmore) and its policies have resulted in an exodus of blacks except for some impoverished communities.

munificent 7y ago

This is a disengenuous argument. Even people who genuinely like diversity are not obligated to want to live near all possible kinds of people. I like diversity, but I don't want to live next to neo-Nazis, anti-vaxxers, serial killers, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

refurb 7y ago
So you’re lumping in Republicans with “Nazi’s, anti-vaxxers and serial killers”?
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  No, but they are related. Instead of nazi say with white power christians, and anti-vaxxers seems to have started out as much more liberal dems but now it's connected up with conservative religious rights. Serial killers might be a reference to mass shootings by conservative men posting republican talking points before their mass shootings. Of course not all republicans are like these things. But a significant number of republicans support those views, especially the belief in white power politics.
  - shijie 7y ago
    Wow do you believe everything you read on Reddit?
    - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
      I don't think all republicans are like that, but the people that do are increasingly finding a place in that party, and that's terrible of course. You have people like this Washington state Senator who literally is saying exactly these things. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/14/rep-matt-shea-endorsed-training-child-soldiers-for/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/14/rep-matt-shea-...
  - whenchamenia 7y ago