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SF is popular because the weather is incredible. The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer. If you can afford i

SF is popular because the weather is incredible. The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer. If you can afford it, SF is a wonderful place but it does have problems big cities with large homeless populations have. When you say "I work for a tech company and make same wages y'all do", I'd be interested in what that number is. edit: To clarify on wages, I'm not trying to have a pissing contest. I'm curious what you consider wages that are same as SF. Frankly, I wouldn't stay here if I didn't make what I make but I also know you won't make the same in most tech companies. I'd leave if compensation was sub $200k.

SomeOldThrow 7y ago
> SF is popular because the weather is incredible. The weather is polarizing, to say the least. Some of us like feeling change, as in through seasons. I fucking hate feeling cold in August. There's about three good weeks of warmth in the year and the rest of the year you need layers.
- scruple 7y ago
  I grew up in the Midwest and spent half a decade between Texas and Georgia. Some of us are also sick of the hot summer heat. And I say that as someone who lives in the Santa Ana foothills in Orange county (it's regularly flirting with 100 degrees in my backyard during the peak of summer -- at least it's dry).
joelrunyon 7y ago
> but it does have problems big cities with large homeless populations have. NYC and Chicago do not seem to have the vast homeless issues that SF does.
- notyourwork 7y ago
  They also have winter and humidity. The Bay Area climate is so average it’s a perfectly place to live outside. Try sleeping on a street in December in New York or Chicago. Similarly San Diego and Seattle have homeless populations.
- phil248 7y ago
  The contemporary homeless problem is vast, growing and almost exclusively along the West coast where climate permits year-round outdoor living.
outworlder 7y ago
> SF is popular because the weather is incredible Well.. it's more like the weather is constant. It's always foggy, with random periods where the "marine layer" is not present. However, drive 30 minutes and you can get away from the annoying fog.
- umeshunni 7y ago
  Or walk to SoMA or the mission or potrero hill or any other neighborhood east of the fog line.
  - notyourwork 7y ago
    Mission bay is fog free as well.
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Reedx 7y ago
> SF is popular because the weather is incredible If you like cold summers and fog over much of the city... Otherwise you'd likely prefer the weather in the peninsula, which is sunny and warm almost every summer day. In fact Redwood City's slogan is "Climate Best by Government Test", heh. But SF gets surprisingly cold even in the middle of summer.
- kilbuz 7y ago
  Many of us do!
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > If you like cold summers and fog over much of the city... Otherwise you'd likely prefer the weather in the peninsula, which is sunny and warm almost every summer day. Why do people assume everyone wants nothing but sun sun sun? It's so boring. I like a bit of cold, fog, and rain.
  - ulfw 7y ago
    Then Seattle is a much nicer city if that’s what one is after
- kjeetgill 7y ago
  Only half the city gets that much fog. Sunset/Richmond side of things. We've had fog maybe 5 days this year in Noe.
slavapestov 7y ago
> SF is popular because the weather is incredible. You mean hazy and dry? > The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer. But then... > Frankly, I wouldn't stay here if I didn't make what I make but I also know you won't make the same in most tech companies. I'd leave if compensation was sub $200k. How much cultural diversity is there really if daily existence is a constant struggle for anyone making less than $200k?
- ulfw 7y ago
  There isn’t. Unless he meant engineers from other countries.
axaxs 7y ago
> The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer Wat. I specifically think SF is the opposite of diversity. Far left ideology is the norm, with no room for dissent... and racially, it's just whites and asians. If that's your idea of diversity, no thank you. Places like Atlanta, Houston, and Tampa are much more diverse.
- forbin_meet_hal 7y ago
  [speaks in fry register] "You're, like, a literrrrrrallll Notzeeeee..." /s
scottlegrand2 7y ago
I get the appeal of the Bay area if you don't have to drive far. And I get the appeal of San Francisco if you never have to venture out of Pacific Heights and The Presidio so to speak. But damn, the sheer number of homeless people pooping on the streets is dystopic. And I've been all over the world. The garbage on the streets of New York City smells better. The tent cities all over the mission blow my mind. I used to really want to live there but when I go up there these days it's only because I have to be there.

SomeOldThrow 7y ago

> SF is popular because the weather is incredible. The weather is polarizing, to say the least. Some of us like feeling change, as in through seasons. I fucking hate feeling cold in August. There's about three good weeks of warmth in the year and the rest of the year you need layers.

scruple 7y ago
I grew up in the Midwest and spent half a decade between Texas and Georgia. Some of us are also sick of the hot summer heat. And I say that as someone who lives in the Santa Ana foothills in Orange county (it's regularly flirting with 100 degrees in my backyard during the peak of summer -- at least it's dry).

joelrunyon 7y ago

> but it does have problems big cities with large homeless populations have. NYC and Chicago do not seem to have the vast homeless issues that SF does.

notyourwork 7y ago
They also have winter and humidity. The Bay Area climate is so average it’s a perfectly place to live outside. Try sleeping on a street in December in New York or Chicago. Similarly San Diego and Seattle have homeless populations.
phil248 7y ago
The contemporary homeless problem is vast, growing and almost exclusively along the West coast where climate permits year-round outdoor living.

outworlder 7y ago

> SF is popular because the weather is incredible Well.. it's more like the weather is constant. It's always foggy, with random periods where the "marine layer" is not present. However, drive 30 minutes and you can get away from the annoying fog.

umeshunni 7y ago
Or walk to SoMA or the mission or potrero hill or any other neighborhood east of the fog line.
- notyourwork 7y ago
  Mission bay is fog free as well.

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Reedx 7y ago

> SF is popular because the weather is incredible If you like cold summers and fog over much of the city... Otherwise you'd likely prefer the weather in the peninsula, which is sunny and warm almost every summer day. In fact Redwood City's slogan is "Climate Best by Government Test", heh. But SF gets surprisingly cold even in the middle of summer.

kilbuz 7y ago
Many of us do!
chrisseaton 7y ago
> If you like cold summers and fog over much of the city... Otherwise you'd likely prefer the weather in the peninsula, which is sunny and warm almost every summer day. Why do people assume everyone wants nothing but sun sun sun? It's so boring. I like a bit of cold, fog, and rain.
- ulfw 7y ago
  Then Seattle is a much nicer city if that’s what one is after
kjeetgill 7y ago
Only half the city gets that much fog. Sunset/Richmond side of things. We've had fog maybe 5 days this year in Noe.

slavapestov 7y ago

> SF is popular because the weather is incredible. You mean hazy and dry? > The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer. But then... > Frankly, I wouldn't stay here if I didn't make what I make but I also know you won't make the same in most tech companies. I'd leave if compensation was sub $200k. How much cultural diversity is there really if daily existence is a constant struggle for anyone making less than $200k?

ulfw 7y ago
There isn’t. Unless he meant engineers from other countries.

axaxs 7y ago

> The bay area has cultural diversity beyond what most cities aside from New York can offer Wat. I specifically think SF is the opposite of diversity. Far left ideology is the norm, with no room for dissent... and racially, it's just whites and asians. If that's your idea of diversity, no thank you. Places like Atlanta, Houston, and Tampa are much more diverse.

forbin_meet_hal 7y ago
[speaks in fry register] "You're, like, a literrrrrrallll Notzeeeee..." /s

scottlegrand2 7y ago

I get the appeal of the Bay area if you don't have to drive far. And I get the appeal of San Francisco if you never have to venture out of Pacific Heights and The Presidio so to speak. But damn, the sheer number of homeless people pooping on the streets is dystopic. And I've been all over the world. The garbage on the streets of New York City smells better. The tent cities all over the mission blow my mind. I used to really want to live there but when I go up there these days it's only because I have to be there.