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Better question - where did they get a datasheet? Ok - I haven't read the article - maybe they're talking about some processor where the manufacturer actually
by cr0sh 7y ago
Better question - where did they get a datasheet?
Ok - I haven't read the article - maybe they're talking about some processor where the manufacturer actually provides a datasheet. Most companies do. I think even AMD does; I know you can get datasheets for the ARM implementations, and most other embedded processors...
...but has anyone found any recent Intel processor datasheets (ok, maybe at this point they'd be several volume databook libraries - but you know what I mean)?
The last time I tried to find something recent from Intel, the most recent datasheet of any kind I could find (one that listed technical stuff like registers, pins, opcodes, etc - not just some basic figures and marketing junk), I think the latest I found was for the Core2 Duo/Quad series - then nothing after that?
Is there some secret trick to getting these? All I could figure at the time was that you had to be part of some program or something, maybe with an NDA - or an actual motherboard manufacturer or something? But then again, how would you write a compiler without the information about opcodes and such?
Now honestly - I don't need such datasheets. But I wanted to look at something "cutting edge" or relatively new (and really, the Core2 datasheet was good enough for this) - and compare it with old datasheets for like the 6809 or 6502 or Z-80, old-school 8-bit processors (the ones I grew up with) - just to see how things have changed (or haven't) and how "insane" things have gotten.
More like a lark for a laugh kind of thing that anything else.
It just struck me that I couldn't easily find them for recent Intel stuff...at least, not easily on the web (but again, maybe I wasn't looking in the right area, or there are other reasons at play).
- anonymfus 7y ago> Ok - I haven't read the article - maybe they're talking about some processor where the manufacturer actually provides a datasheet. You don't ever need to read the article, URI is enough to know the manufacturer. > The last time I tried to find something recent from Intel, the most recent datasheet of any kind I could find (one that listed technical stuff like registers, pins, opcodes, etc - not just some basic figures and marketing junk), I think the latest I found was for the Core2 Duo/Quad series - then nothing after that That was the last generation supported by non-Intel chipsets. It is not a coincidence.
- fmntf 7y ago> Is there some secret trick to getting these? All I could figure at the time was that you had to be part of some program or something, maybe with an NDA - or an actual motherboard manufacturer or something? Yes, hardware manufacturers have access to a ton of (well written) "intel confidential" pdf files.
- pjc50 7y agoThe article is from Analog. They link the datasheet (or at least a datasheet) at the bottom. He's a FAE for Analog. He can, if necessary, find the people who wrote the datasheet and drop by their desk.
- segfaultbuserr 7y ago"Processor" here refers to something like your ATMega2560 (or in this article, ARM Cortex-A5 MCU), not Intel or AMD desktop processors. It should have been named "microcontroller", but I used the original title per guidelines. The bottomline is, at least skim through the article to make sure your comment is on-topic.