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Some cars have a lot of capacity, so in some cases that is like saying who wants a car with only half a tank of gas?

by jdofaz 7y ago

saghm 7y ago
Unfortunately, until there's more infrastructure supporting electric cars, it's much easier to refill your car with gas if it runs low while you're out than recharge it.
- AnthonyMouse 7y ago
  The dominant share of vehicle miles are commuting to work. If you work 9-5 and there is a charging port at work, you plug into it when you get there and you're charging during daylight hours. Meanwhile the average commute is 16 miles each way against cars that now have a ~300 mile range, which is plenty of slack for the odd evening use while still not needing to charge outside of work on anything but rare occasions.
  - Forge36 7y ago
    I wish I had a charging station at work. My commute is short enough I don't need it fortunately
  - WorldMaker 7y ago
    In the 300 mile range you start to get near the point where the average (mean and median, maybe not mode) commuter can charge once a week on an average work week at a fast charger at the local grocery store for merely an hour or two and still not worry about range. Work charging and home charging are nice to have slow and steady options that make EVs easier than gas, but it's about to the point where if you treat it like "gas" with a once a week fill-up that is increasingly an option if you relax your worries about "range" to the point that gas users are currently relaxed about in keeping their tanks full. (Range anxiety for ICE will eventually make a huge comeback. Electricity is everywhere, imagine driving a car where you couldn't just plug in anywhere the electric grid is and had to go to "stations" of a scarce mostly single-purpose resource for power. Haha.)
    - godshatter 7y ago
      How long does an electric car take to charge, though? That's the convenience factor of ICE vehicles that will be hard to beat, probably. I can fill up my ICE vehicle in a minute or two.
      - WorldMaker 7y ago
        I included that information. A top level CCS or SuperCharger can often fill an electric car to 80% battery in about 30 minutes and to 100% generally somewhere between an hour and two (models will vary, as do the variety of chargers). People easily spend that much time on a grocery trip or a snack/meal (at least) once a week per my hypothetical scenario above. It's "good enough" already for a lot of people today, and again I was primarily arguing today's median/mean case.
- Forge36 7y ago
  That's why I like having a hybrid. My daily commute is entirely electric

Some cars have a lot of capacity, so in some cases that is like saying who wants a car with only half a tank of gas?

by jdofaz 7y ago

Some cars have a lot of capacity, so in some cases that is like saying who wants a car with only half a tank of gas?

Unfortunately, until there's more infrastructure supporting electric cars, it's much easier to refill your car with gas if it runs low while you're out than recharge it.

AnthonyMouse 7y ago
The dominant share of vehicle miles are commuting to work. If you work 9-5 and there is a charging port at work, you plug into it when you get there and you're charging during daylight hours. Meanwhile the average commute is 16 miles each way against cars that now have a ~300 mile range, which is plenty of slack for the odd evening use while still not needing to charge outside of work on anything but rare occasions.
- Forge36 7y ago
  I wish I had a charging station at work. My commute is short enough I don't need it fortunately
- WorldMaker 7y ago
  In the 300 mile range you start to get near the point where the average (mean and median, maybe not mode) commuter can charge once a week on an average work week at a fast charger at the local grocery store for merely an hour or two and still not worry about range. Work charging and home charging are nice to have slow and steady options that make EVs easier than gas, but it's about to the point where if you treat it like "gas" with a once a week fill-up that is increasingly an option if you relax your worries about "range" to the point that gas users are currently relaxed about in keeping their tanks full. (Range anxiety for ICE will eventually make a huge comeback. Electricity is everywhere, imagine driving a car where you couldn't just plug in anywhere the electric grid is and had to go to "stations" of a scarce mostly single-purpose resource for power. Haha.)
  - godshatter 7y ago
    How long does an electric car take to charge, though? That's the convenience factor of ICE vehicles that will be hard to beat, probably. I can fill up my ICE vehicle in a minute or two.
    - WorldMaker 7y ago
      I included that information. A top level CCS or SuperCharger can often fill an electric car to 80% battery in about 30 minutes and to 100% generally somewhere between an hour and two (models will vary, as do the variety of chargers). People easily spend that much time on a grocery trip or a snack/meal (at least) once a week per my hypothetical scenario above. It's "good enough" already for a lot of people today, and again I was primarily arguing today's median/mean case.
Forge36 7y ago
That's why I like having a hybrid. My daily commute is entirely electric