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Have they tried not killing people?

inlined 7y ago
“Death by cop” is a form of suicide. Some will try to create a situation where the cop has no choice but to kill or be killed.
- HarryHirsch 7y ago
  Cops will regularly escalate a volatile situation because they have no incentives not to. Come on, about 1000 people are shot dead by police every year, that's an outlier in the civilized world. Firearms are rarer outside the US, but anyone can pick up a kitchen knife, which is just as deadly. Strangely enough, outside the US, deadly shootings involving the cops are actually news.
  - beatgammit 7y ago
    I wish we would put more effort into policing the police, but for some reason, cops seem to stick up for each other even when a crime may have been committed. I believe that most cops are good, but the position definitely attracts people who like violence/power. I don't know the solution here, but there has to be a way to help good cops get the recognition they deserve without forcing them to betray their fellow officers to eliminate the bad.
    - HarryHirsch 7y ago
      Earlier this year, a video of the NYPD impounding a dirtbike made the rounds: https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/nypd-officer-wipes-out-on-dirt-bike-in-harlem/ https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/nypd-officer-wipes-out-on-dirt... There was a large group of arsehole youth tearing through the area on their dirtbikes, and some fellow came off his bike, he escaped by hopping on his friend's bike, but the bike was left behind, and the police had to remove it. In the video we are treated to a group of officers egging on a colleague to get on the bike and take it to the precinct. The victim had clearly never ridden motorbike before, and it ends up as expected, the guy tears across a busy intersection through a red light, wipes out, nearly hitting two cars. And then he picks himself up from the ground and none of his "friends" assists him. Oh, and no helmet, no protective clothing, presumably no license, but open weapons. The guy did something wrong and was made fun of in public. Unit discipline in the leading city in the US is bad beyond all description. There is no good cop in all of that video, not a single one. They all deserve to have serious discipline imposed, but that will never happen.

“Death by cop” is a form of suicide. Some will try to create a situation where the cop has no choice but to kill or be killed.

HarryHirsch 7y ago
Cops will regularly escalate a volatile situation because they have no incentives not to. Come on, about 1000 people are shot dead by police every year, that's an outlier in the civilized world. Firearms are rarer outside the US, but anyone can pick up a kitchen knife, which is just as deadly. Strangely enough, outside the US, deadly shootings involving the cops are actually news.
- beatgammit 7y ago
  I wish we would put more effort into policing the police, but for some reason, cops seem to stick up for each other even when a crime may have been committed. I believe that most cops are good, but the position definitely attracts people who like violence/power. I don't know the solution here, but there has to be a way to help good cops get the recognition they deserve without forcing them to betray their fellow officers to eliminate the bad.
  - HarryHirsch 7y ago
    Earlier this year, a video of the NYPD impounding a dirtbike made the rounds: https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/nypd-officer-wipes-out-on-dirt-bike-in-harlem/ https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/nypd-officer-wipes-out-on-dirt... There was a large group of arsehole youth tearing through the area on their dirtbikes, and some fellow came off his bike, he escaped by hopping on his friend's bike, but the bike was left behind, and the police had to remove it. In the video we are treated to a group of officers egging on a colleague to get on the bike and take it to the precinct. The victim had clearly never ridden motorbike before, and it ends up as expected, the guy tears across a busy intersection through a red light, wipes out, nearly hitting two cars. And then he picks himself up from the ground and none of his "friends" assists him. Oh, and no helmet, no protective clothing, presumably no license, but open weapons. The guy did something wrong and was made fun of in public. Unit discipline in the leading city in the US is bad beyond all description. There is no good cop in all of that video, not a single one. They all deserve to have serious discipline imposed, but that will never happen.