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There really should be an offering for people who just need to honestly talk to someone without consequence or follow up (barring cases involving harm to others

by fiblye 7y ago

There really should be an offering for people who just need to honestly talk to someone without consequence or follow up (barring cases involving harm to others). I think a big reason so many people deal with depression in silence and end up committing suicide is because they don't want the attention or being put into the mental health system. They need someone who'll listen to them be completely honest about all the problems that they can't be open about with friends and get it all out without the whole neighborhood knowing or being fucking detained. Plenty of people are going through temporary troubles and don't want "depressed/suicidal/a risk to themselves and others" tacked onto their name forever. But as it is, a lot of our mental health frameworks are set up that way and it leads to people choosing a quieter way out. I know loads of people will defend wellness checks or putting people in a hospital for a while. For some people going through extreme crises, it is good. But we need a very clear and obvious option for people who aren't a danger to others and just need an anonymous chat once in a while and want to be left alone the minute they hang up the phone. I think men in particular, especially since a large number have nobody who they can honestly vent about their problems with, are in need of something like this. They don't want to be seen as weak, they don't want to be thrown into the system, they just need someone to talk to.

nspl_anon 7y ago
> There really should be an offering for people who just need to honestly talk to someone without consequence or follow up. The vast majority of people who call suicide hotlines do it for this purpose.
- fiblye 7y ago
  I know people who called and got a 1 week trip. A problem is there's a "risk" in calling. There's no 100% guarantee that you won't get a knock on your door 30 minutes later. I know people will say that suicide has a clear and obvious risk, too. The problem is that people fear the embarrassment of being paid a visit or people knowing about their troubles more than they do death.
alexis_fr 7y ago
In men’s issues (where I volunteer), the reason they don’t generally call the police or subscribe to a psychologist is because of incels who commit terrorist attacks. Who would want to call the police and say they’re upset with the system, knowing the first thing the police may do to remove the risk is to remove... you? Sometimes they go to a psy, under a false name. A men are the first suiciders, so it’s worth weighing this is. Once we find a group for them where they can share the problems they have with women, they’re generally defused and talk about their thoughts years later. It’s living in the omerta and denial of women’s issues that multiplies anger.

by fiblye 7y ago

nspl_anon 7y ago

> There really should be an offering for people who just need to honestly talk to someone without consequence or follow up. The vast majority of people who call suicide hotlines do it for this purpose.

fiblye 7y ago
I know people who called and got a 1 week trip. A problem is there's a "risk" in calling. There's no 100% guarantee that you won't get a knock on your door 30 minutes later. I know people will say that suicide has a clear and obvious risk, too. The problem is that people fear the embarrassment of being paid a visit or people knowing about their troubles more than they do death.

alexis_fr 7y ago

In men’s issues (where I volunteer), the reason they don’t generally call the police or subscribe to a psychologist is because of incels who commit terrorist attacks. Who would want to call the police and say they’re upset with the system, knowing the first thing the police may do to remove the risk is to remove... you? Sometimes they go to a psy, under a false name. A men are the first suiciders, so it’s worth weighing this is. Once we find a group for them where they can share the problems they have with women, they’re generally defused and talk about their thoughts years later. It’s living in the omerta and denial of women’s issues that multiplies anger.