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urban mass transit is never used by the wealthy. the last thing people with ill gotten gains want to do is to be around others who can identify them and see wit

urban mass transit is never used by the wealthy. the last thing people with ill gotten gains want to do is to be around others who can identify them and see with their own eyes how much they’ve stolen. and they don’t want to be around their own kind as there’s no honor amongst thieves.

dragontamer 7y ago
Senators use the DC Metro and Stock Market traders in NYC use their subway. Big Subway systems in big cities are pretty famous for seeing executives in suits and celebrities sit in the same bus as beggars. > ill gotten gains That's... quite an assumption you're making there. Sure, some execs are assholes. But most true wealth is driven through cooperation.
- rpmisms 7y ago
  I think he's making the morally dubious jump to say that corporate profits are immoral.
  - whenanother 7y ago
    nothing wrong with corporate profits. the problem lies when a corporation is being used as a money laundering and tax evasion scheme. and a boogie man that wealthy people hide behind.
- whenanother 7y ago
  and your are mistaking the working class with people with wealth.
cmrdporcupine 7y ago
"urban transit is never used by the wealthy" ... In North America What you are saying here is not true of Europe. This is a cultural problem, and says a lot about American culture. Racism, excessive individualism, and status seeking. I remember being shocked when I first visited suburban Atlanta for work. Atlanta is a lot like the greater Toronto area (where I live[d]) -- big giant sprawl. But unlike the Toronto area, people in the suburbs were actively campaigning _against_ the extension of rail into their area, because they didn't want the undesirables from downtown coming into their prosperous sprawl.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago
  Or, if you have money, you can opt out of uncomfortable inconvenient dirty solutions to your transportation problems. What's money for after all.
  - lm28469 7y ago
    > What's money for after all. > At the heart of capitalism is a vast and scarcely examined assumption: you are entitled to as great a share of the world’s resources as your money can buy. You can purchase as much land, as much atmospheric space, as many minerals, as much meat and fish as you can afford, regardless of who might be deprived. If you can pay for them, you can own entire mountain ranges and fertile plains. You can burn as much fuel as you like. Every pound or dollar secures a certain right over the world’s natural wealth. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/15/capitalism-destroying-earth-human-right-climate-strike-children https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/15/capita...
    - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
      Vast wealth can get out of hand, sure. But for the most part, we as individuals earn money to better our lives. Get a better education, live in a better part of town, raise kids safer with better food etc. Its not a game, its life. Its also a mistake to say "money shouldn't determine important things like who gets to go to a good school", because money is exactly designed for that. Its not supposed to be just a game where money only buys toys and entertainment
buboard 7y ago
They use it when it's faster
- cmrdporcupine 7y ago
  It doesn't get faster when cars are the priority. Neighbourhoods are built without consideration for transit, and roads sprawl out indefinitely into the countryside. As long as the investment priority is in cars, transit will suck.
notJim 7y ago
There's probably some truth to this, although it's not as absolute as you say. The obvious solution is higher taxes for the wealthy. Wealthy people have higher climate impacts across the board, from increased meat consumption to larger houses, to first class flights and private jets.

dragontamer 7y ago

Senators use the DC Metro and Stock Market traders in NYC use their subway. Big Subway systems in big cities are pretty famous for seeing executives in suits and celebrities sit in the same bus as beggars. > ill gotten gains That's... quite an assumption you're making there. Sure, some execs are assholes. But most true wealth is driven through cooperation.

rpmisms 7y ago
I think he's making the morally dubious jump to say that corporate profits are immoral.
- whenanother 7y ago
  nothing wrong with corporate profits. the problem lies when a corporation is being used as a money laundering and tax evasion scheme. and a boogie man that wealthy people hide behind.
whenanother 7y ago
and your are mistaking the working class with people with wealth.

cmrdporcupine 7y ago

"urban transit is never used by the wealthy" ... In North America What you are saying here is not true of Europe. This is a cultural problem, and says a lot about American culture. Racism, excessive individualism, and status seeking. I remember being shocked when I first visited suburban Atlanta for work. Atlanta is a lot like the greater Toronto area (where I live[d]) -- big giant sprawl. But unlike the Toronto area, people in the suburbs were actively campaigning _against_ the extension of rail into their area, because they didn't want the undesirables from downtown coming into their prosperous sprawl.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
Or, if you have money, you can opt out of uncomfortable inconvenient dirty solutions to your transportation problems. What's money for after all.
- lm28469 7y ago
  > What's money for after all. > At the heart of capitalism is a vast and scarcely examined assumption: you are entitled to as great a share of the world’s resources as your money can buy. You can purchase as much land, as much atmospheric space, as many minerals, as much meat and fish as you can afford, regardless of who might be deprived. If you can pay for them, you can own entire mountain ranges and fertile plains. You can burn as much fuel as you like. Every pound or dollar secures a certain right over the world’s natural wealth. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/15/capitalism-destroying-earth-human-right-climate-strike-children https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/15/capita...
  - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
    Vast wealth can get out of hand, sure. But for the most part, we as individuals earn money to better our lives. Get a better education, live in a better part of town, raise kids safer with better food etc. Its not a game, its life. Its also a mistake to say "money shouldn't determine important things like who gets to go to a good school", because money is exactly designed for that. Its not supposed to be just a game where money only buys toys and entertainment

buboard 7y ago

They use it when it's faster

cmrdporcupine 7y ago
It doesn't get faster when cars are the priority. Neighbourhoods are built without consideration for transit, and roads sprawl out indefinitely into the countryside. As long as the investment priority is in cars, transit will suck.

notJim 7y ago

There's probably some truth to this, although it's not as absolute as you say. The obvious solution is higher taxes for the wealthy. Wealthy people have higher climate impacts across the board, from increased meat consumption to larger houses, to first class flights and private jets.