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Integration is a part of QA. I explicitly held that QA was one of the two main drivers of Linux's failure. And don't kid yourself, it's definitive -- Linux evok

Integration is a part of QA. I explicitly held that QA was one of the two main drivers of Linux's failure. And don't kid yourself, it's definitive -- Linux evokes images of crummy half-baked software in most people's heads.

niels_olson 18y ago
People who describe themselves as "young-ish" similarly evoke images of crummy half-baked ideas. Things grow. As you grow older you will learn to try to not discount the entity you are presented with now based on impressions made in the past.
- syntaxfree 18y ago
  Well, the blog is full of crummy half-baked ideas, not to mention weird rants written in panic while on drugs. My professional work is not described as something by a young-ish person. The thing is, it's too late to change the average (intelligent, well-informed, willing to try new things) user's perception of Linux. For a while, people like classical musicians were trying Linux because it seemed like the better alternative. They gave up. The world gave up. It's interesting how people using Linux are so insistent and proud of their technology. (Check this reddit mini-thread: http://reddit.com/info/6ku5n/comments/c044vs7 http://reddit.com/info/6ku5n/comments/c044vs7 ) I never once mentioned in the blog post I use a Mac. It's just something in the background. I don't think about it. I use Windows at work, incidentally. The taskbar works differently, but I'm not playing OS freak anymore.
- syntaxfree 18y ago
  Oh. On growing older, I'm 25, soon to be 26, and actually trying to present me as younger. I wish I was younger, I wasted my teenage years and I'm trying to live it now while growing to be "serious" professionally in parallel. It's an interesting thing. I have had two relationships with 30-year-olds who are in the same late-adolescence trip I am. Anyway, that's a personal rant.
Leon 18y ago
Who are these 'most people' you speak of? If you mean people, in general, then you are talking about middle aged parents in suburbia, the elderly, or youth outside of the IT field. What do they know of software? But if you would like to talk about anyone in software engineering, scientific computing, high-performance computing, embedded systems, mission critical systems, server side development, etc., then most people will tell you Linux is integral to their work and not some half-baked piece of software.
- syntaxfree 18y ago
  You do realize there are smart people outside the computer field, right? Anyone can become a Linux sysadmin in six months of training. Most classical musicians start in their early teens to get to orchestra level.
  - olefoo 18y ago
    > Anyone can become a Linux sysadmin in six months of training. I would find that insulting if I thought you knew what you were talking about. Responding to your original blog troll http://dayvancowboy.org/2008/05/de-landa-tackles-open-source/ http://dayvancowboy.org/2008/05/de-landa-tackles-open-source... 1. you have your facts wrong. Linux is picking up in the consumer space, and many more people are starting to use it who aren't programmers. But, this has nothing to do with open source. HP, Dell and IBM all ship computers w/ Linux; which makes for an interesting definition of failure. 2. De Landa's understanding of open source is simplistic and wrong a movement that can be said to encompass both Theo De Raadt and Richard Stallman is not one given to unity of motive. One could say that there is no open source movement as such, merely individuals who use open source as a tactic. 3. Given 2. it is absurd to speak of "Open Source" "Failing"; it's like saying academia has failed because some people do not get advanced degrees. There went my lunch hour dammit.
    - syntaxfree 18y ago
      Are you really comparing the expertise of a Linux/Unix sysadmin with that of a classically-trained orchestra-able violinist? Boy, you need to get out more.

niels_olson 18y ago

People who describe themselves as "young-ish" similarly evoke images of crummy half-baked ideas. Things grow. As you grow older you will learn to try to not discount the entity you are presented with now based on impressions made in the past.

syntaxfree 18y ago
Well, the blog is full of crummy half-baked ideas, not to mention weird rants written in panic while on drugs. My professional work is not described as something by a young-ish person. The thing is, it's too late to change the average (intelligent, well-informed, willing to try new things) user's perception of Linux. For a while, people like classical musicians were trying Linux because it seemed like the better alternative. They gave up. The world gave up. It's interesting how people using Linux are so insistent and proud of their technology. (Check this reddit mini-thread: http://reddit.com/info/6ku5n/comments/c044vs7 http://reddit.com/info/6ku5n/comments/c044vs7 ) I never once mentioned in the blog post I use a Mac. It's just something in the background. I don't think about it. I use Windows at work, incidentally. The taskbar works differently, but I'm not playing OS freak anymore.
syntaxfree 18y ago
Oh. On growing older, I'm 25, soon to be 26, and actually trying to present me as younger. I wish I was younger, I wasted my teenage years and I'm trying to live it now while growing to be "serious" professionally in parallel. It's an interesting thing. I have had two relationships with 30-year-olds who are in the same late-adolescence trip I am. Anyway, that's a personal rant.

Leon 18y ago

Who are these 'most people' you speak of? If you mean people, in general, then you are talking about middle aged parents in suburbia, the elderly, or youth outside of the IT field. What do they know of software? But if you would like to talk about anyone in software engineering, scientific computing, high-performance computing, embedded systems, mission critical systems, server side development, etc., then most people will tell you Linux is integral to their work and not some half-baked piece of software.

syntaxfree 18y ago
You do realize there are smart people outside the computer field, right? Anyone can become a Linux sysadmin in six months of training. Most classical musicians start in their early teens to get to orchestra level.
- olefoo 18y ago
  > Anyone can become a Linux sysadmin in six months of training. I would find that insulting if I thought you knew what you were talking about. Responding to your original blog troll http://dayvancowboy.org/2008/05/de-landa-tackles-open-source/ http://dayvancowboy.org/2008/05/de-landa-tackles-open-source... 1. you have your facts wrong. Linux is picking up in the consumer space, and many more people are starting to use it who aren't programmers. But, this has nothing to do with open source. HP, Dell and IBM all ship computers w/ Linux; which makes for an interesting definition of failure. 2. De Landa's understanding of open source is simplistic and wrong a movement that can be said to encompass both Theo De Raadt and Richard Stallman is not one given to unity of motive. One could say that there is no open source movement as such, merely individuals who use open source as a tactic. 3. Given 2. it is absurd to speak of "Open Source" "Failing"; it's like saying academia has failed because some people do not get advanced degrees. There went my lunch hour dammit.
  - syntaxfree 18y ago
    Are you really comparing the expertise of a Linux/Unix sysadmin with that of a classically-trained orchestra-able violinist? Boy, you need to get out more.