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I have no idea about Nassau county, but in NYC $45k/yr means you won't be able to cover basic living expenses. I guess that will be the next trend in hiring pr

I have no idea about Nassau county, but in NYC $45k/yr means you won't be able to cover basic living expenses. I guess that will be the next trend in hiring propaganda: selling us on that sweet homeless life.

perl4ever 7y ago
Nassau county seems to be just barely onto Long Island, near JFK. Here's the list of skills wanted from another NYC junior programmer want ad that says $35-40K/yr: Programming Skills Desired: Transact SQL Database Design & Theory HTML XML CSS JavaScript VB Script Auto Hot Key (AHK) PHP C# All of these (except for AHK which I've never heard of) look trivial, but I'd expect the interview would be impossible, because the interviewer is going to be primed to expect people with no skills and therefore assume the worst of anyone who doesn't have 110% current experience in each.
- cableshaft 7y ago
  All of those look trivial for a Junior Programmer to have experience in? VB Script and PHP and T-SQL and C# along with the rest? I'd expect a college student not to be actively taught any of these (T-SQL maybe if they took a database class), and they're not exactly the new hotness for languages to learn. I'm saying this as a dev that works for a company that uses a Microsoft stack right now too (I almost never see anyone talk about C# on this site or in the Who's Hiring threads.). This seems like a laundry list of that employer's specific tech stack hoping they can get some sucker that has their exact stack because they happened to experiment with all of those languages in their free time, which is unlikely. Anyone who does have this stack can probably get a much better salary almost anywhere else. It does say "desired" at least, and not "required", so they might not expect applicants to match this completely, but I bet some of the interviewers haven't gotten that memo (which seems to be what you're saying in the last paragraph also). Also you mention you haven't heard of AHK, and it can be pretty useful. It's basically a macro program for doing things in Windows and assigning a hotkey combination to it. I've scripted some things in it before, although I'm not currently using it. It's not that hard to learn, and I can't imagine that any programmer couldn't pick up the basics after a few hours on the job, so I don't know why anyone would include that in a list of technology, thereby adding one extra thing for an applicant to think they need to have experience in to apply and not apply to their company.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    No, a junior programmer probably wouldn't have experience that would satisfy them. And they probably wouldn't hire someone with years of experience. I meant trivial to learn in a few months.
perl4ever 7y ago
CUNY is looking for a Research Assistant - starting pay of $19/hr, and the only technical skills requested are that you know Stata and R. But you do need a Master's, preferably a PhD, and lots of knowledge of statistics. Basically what I imagine people are claiming equates to a six-figure data scientist for other employers. Like a lot of ads, they mix ridiculously specific qualifications with ridiculously generic ones. For example, one important skill is: - "robust practices" such as "loops"! and another is: - "knowledge of City University of New York Institutional Research Data"

perl4ever 7y ago

Nassau county seems to be just barely onto Long Island, near JFK. Here's the list of skills wanted from another NYC junior programmer want ad that says $35-40K/yr: Programming Skills Desired: Transact SQL Database Design & Theory HTML XML CSS JavaScript VB Script Auto Hot Key (AHK) PHP C# All of these (except for AHK which I've never heard of) look trivial, but I'd expect the interview would be impossible, because the interviewer is going to be primed to expect people with no skills and therefore assume the worst of anyone who doesn't have 110% current experience in each.

cableshaft 7y ago
All of those look trivial for a Junior Programmer to have experience in? VB Script and PHP and T-SQL and C# along with the rest? I'd expect a college student not to be actively taught any of these (T-SQL maybe if they took a database class), and they're not exactly the new hotness for languages to learn. I'm saying this as a dev that works for a company that uses a Microsoft stack right now too (I almost never see anyone talk about C# on this site or in the Who's Hiring threads.). This seems like a laundry list of that employer's specific tech stack hoping they can get some sucker that has their exact stack because they happened to experiment with all of those languages in their free time, which is unlikely. Anyone who does have this stack can probably get a much better salary almost anywhere else. It does say "desired" at least, and not "required", so they might not expect applicants to match this completely, but I bet some of the interviewers haven't gotten that memo (which seems to be what you're saying in the last paragraph also). Also you mention you haven't heard of AHK, and it can be pretty useful. It's basically a macro program for doing things in Windows and assigning a hotkey combination to it. I've scripted some things in it before, although I'm not currently using it. It's not that hard to learn, and I can't imagine that any programmer couldn't pick up the basics after a few hours on the job, so I don't know why anyone would include that in a list of technology, thereby adding one extra thing for an applicant to think they need to have experience in to apply and not apply to their company.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  No, a junior programmer probably wouldn't have experience that would satisfy them. And they probably wouldn't hire someone with years of experience. I meant trivial to learn in a few months.

perl4ever 7y ago

CUNY is looking for a Research Assistant - starting pay of $19/hr, and the only technical skills requested are that you know Stata and R. But you do need a Master's, preferably a PhD, and lots of knowledge of statistics. Basically what I imagine people are claiming equates to a six-figure data scientist for other employers. Like a lot of ads, they mix ridiculously specific qualifications with ridiculously generic ones. For example, one important skill is: - "robust practices" such as "loops"! and another is: - "knowledge of City University of New York Institutional Research Data"