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> for someone who doesn't develop software at home. Are you saying in general - or just for Windows-based software (since you mentioned needing to set up Visua

by cr0sh 7y ago

> for someone who doesn't develop software at home. Are you saying in general - or just for Windows-based software (since you mentioned needing to set up Visual Studio)? The latter I can understand; but the former makes me want to ask, "Who applies for an SWE position who doesn't write code at home?" I've been an SWE professionally since 1991 when I was 18; I got my first computer in 1984, and have been "coding at home" ever since. I'm not saying "to be an SWE you need a similar experience" (I know that's untrue) - I'm just relating that I've been coding for a long time, and "at home" is very much a part of it. Then again, I've heard of people who absolutely hated coding, but were extremely good at it (and I assume made good money doing it), but when they went home, they didn't even want to think about such a thing. Maybe you are similar in that regard? I guess I am just curious and a bit fascinated by your comment...

lexs 7y ago
I wonder how many surgeons do operations at home.
jschwartzi 7y ago
I'm someone who does it for 8-10 hours a day at their day job. My fiance works in a retail store. She doesn't come home and immediately start doing retail sales out of her house. Another friend is a teacher and she doesn't run a school out of her house. Professional baseball players rest after games. They don't finish up and then immediately start practicing again. And soldiers and police get down-time. Just because I'm doing something I enjoy and that I want to do, doesn't mean I should do it all of my waking hours. I'm not doing this to code, I'm doing this because my employer is paying me to build cool shit and I like doing that. I don't lift weights 24/7, I don't run 24/7, I don't hike 24/7, and I don't program 24/7. Frankly your attitude is one of the reasons why we don't have any diversity in this profession at most self-described tech companies, and it also underlies a lot of the seeming ageism today. All of these self-described non-conformists expect everyone in the profession to conform to their attitude and it's sickening.

by cr0sh 7y ago

lexs 7y ago

I wonder how many surgeons do operations at home.

jschwartzi 7y ago

I'm someone who does it for 8-10 hours a day at their day job. My fiance works in a retail store. She doesn't come home and immediately start doing retail sales out of her house. Another friend is a teacher and she doesn't run a school out of her house. Professional baseball players rest after games. They don't finish up and then immediately start practicing again. And soldiers and police get down-time. Just because I'm doing something I enjoy and that I want to do, doesn't mean I should do it all of my waking hours. I'm not doing this to code, I'm doing this because my employer is paying me to build cool shit and I like doing that. I don't lift weights 24/7, I don't run 24/7, I don't hike 24/7, and I don't program 24/7. Frankly your attitude is one of the reasons why we don't have any diversity in this profession at most self-described tech companies, and it also underlies a lot of the seeming ageism today. All of these self-described non-conformists expect everyone in the profession to conform to their attitude and it's sickening.