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After dealing with Apple's process, no one EVER said we need more of that! Among other things, the ease of approval is waht makes Android more loved by many dev

After dealing with Apple's process, no one EVER said we need more of that! Among other things, the ease of approval is waht makes Android more loved by many devs, please don't spoil that

edf13 7y ago
And also makes it so loved by spam, fake App and other malicious devs
- writepub 7y ago
  Oh what a beautiful lie. "If only Google blocked devs more, we'd all live in security Utopia". And that's why folks, what the world really needs is not the open web, or open anything, but an Apple/Google/UltraMegaCorp approved whitelist of domains, for your own safety. Because Apple cares, unless it's a nation state like China, then Apple folds, because hard spun tales of user safety and empathy be damned when bottom lines are in play
- lostmyoldone 7y ago
  Yes, malicious actors tend to use the same infrastructure as everyone else, especially if it is good. Figuratively tearing up the paving is a terrible solution to a speeding problem, which most countries seem to agree with. Usually speeding instead is a fineable offense, which I'm okay with. Reserve the right to apply a fee if you release more than X apps per Y time, or update more often than Z times in Y time. Increase the allowed fee/fine geometrically (or lower, but still exponentially) for each offending update/app, but allow keeping a few "credits" if you have a reasonable update rate. This would make it costly to be a bad actor, but still affordable the odd time you mess up and need to push out an unplanned change.
sokoloff 7y ago
I had heard/read horror stories of Apple's approval process, so I was expecting a terrible experience. I had exactly the opposite; it was very smooth and much faster than I expected. (I don't recall the exact latency, but I seem to recall it was the next day.)
- alex_c 7y ago
  iOS review process used to be much much worse years ago - up to two weeks at worst. It’s much better now.
greycol 7y ago
Yes it sucks for developers. Especially as others have pointed out because of the lack of an ability to submit the app early to have it reviewed and release at a later time. Really though Google gets a huge pass on the Android app front for the simple reason that you and your users can sideload. Yes it requires a trusted reputation, or stupid users, but google doesn't stop you from supplying your clients/customers with critical apps(or updates) as soon as they're ready.

After dealing with Apple's process, no one EVER said we need more of that! Among other things, the ease of approval is waht makes Android more loved by many devs, please don't spoil that

edf13 7y ago

And also makes it so loved by spam, fake App and other malicious devs

writepub 7y ago
Oh what a beautiful lie. "If only Google blocked devs more, we'd all live in security Utopia". And that's why folks, what the world really needs is not the open web, or open anything, but an Apple/Google/UltraMegaCorp approved whitelist of domains, for your own safety. Because Apple cares, unless it's a nation state like China, then Apple folds, because hard spun tales of user safety and empathy be damned when bottom lines are in play
lostmyoldone 7y ago
Yes, malicious actors tend to use the same infrastructure as everyone else, especially if it is good. Figuratively tearing up the paving is a terrible solution to a speeding problem, which most countries seem to agree with. Usually speeding instead is a fineable offense, which I'm okay with. Reserve the right to apply a fee if you release more than X apps per Y time, or update more often than Z times in Y time. Increase the allowed fee/fine geometrically (or lower, but still exponentially) for each offending update/app, but allow keeping a few "credits" if you have a reasonable update rate. This would make it costly to be a bad actor, but still affordable the odd time you mess up and need to push out an unplanned change.

sokoloff 7y ago

I had heard/read horror stories of Apple's approval process, so I was expecting a terrible experience. I had exactly the opposite; it was very smooth and much faster than I expected. (I don't recall the exact latency, but I seem to recall it was the next day.)

alex_c 7y ago
iOS review process used to be much much worse years ago - up to two weeks at worst. It’s much better now.

greycol 7y ago

Yes it sucks for developers. Especially as others have pointed out because of the lack of an ability to submit the app early to have it reviewed and release at a later time. Really though Google gets a huge pass on the Android app front for the simple reason that you and your users can sideload. Yes it requires a trusted reputation, or stupid users, but google doesn't stop you from supplying your clients/customers with critical apps(or updates) as soon as they're ready.