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> Literally billions have been lifted out of poverty because of it. i hear this meme a lot. can you point to statistics that indicate global poverty outside of
by maximente 7y ago
> Literally billions have been lifted out of poverty because of it.
i hear this meme a lot. can you point to statistics that indicate global poverty outside of China has materially changed in recent decades?
- harryh 7y agoThe share of global population living in extreme poverty excluding China dropped from 29% to 12% from 1981 to 2013. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/poverty-decline-without-china?time=1981..2015 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/poverty-decline-without-c... World population excluding China was about 5.8 billion in 2013 so that 17% change represents right around a billion people outside of China.
- maximente 7y agothanks, but you cited stats that reference global poverty declining (of which i'm aware); your claim was that global poverty declined because of [globalization]. where is that data? it's not hard to think about why global poverty has declined in many places. in asia, e.g. india has rural anti government policies, rice prices stabilization in indonesia/bangladesh/nepal, etc. additionally, african poverty as best i can see hasn't budged much, perhaps indicating that government intervention like the in SE asia has been bearing most of the positive anti-poverty measures. i'm still not convinced by your claim that globalization has literally lifted billions out of poverty. it may have helped, but you claim seems vastly overstated from what i'm seeing. edit: just now seeing my original question wasn't too clear, apologies for that.
- harryh 7y agoThe fact that lots and lots and lots of people in countries with fast rising GDPs work in factories that export goods to richer nations seems pretty convincing to me. You note, correctly, that Africa hasn't seen as much improvement. Guess where there hasn't been nearly as much trade driven development?