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Honest question, which I can't really answer myself: Do people think the hiring process for developers is more broken as compared to other industries? My perso

Honest question, which I can't really answer myself: Do people think the hiring process for developers is more broken as compared to other industries? My personal experience says that interviewing as a developer is often more straightforward and less arbitrary than what my non-tech friends have experienced. Can anyone who has made career changes to or from tech give their experience?

SQueeeeeL 7y ago
All hiring is extremely arbitrary. The reason coding is so bad is because there's this huge myth of lower class workers becoming coders overnight, just by studying for a few months of leet code. There is an essay about the feminist movement in the 70s (https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm). It makes the reasonable point that people are likely to hire/recruit people similar to themselves. The code interviews are expected to remove this, if you stick a bunch of CS people in a room and tell them to make an unbiased interview process; you'll get the hell world we live in today. To get a job on a sales floor, most of it is just impressing the existing gate-keepers. Coders live in a fantasy world where gate keeping isn't real. Except it isn't possible to remove that from hiring, no one wants to hire someone who doesn't integrate well in their team. So we have this hellworld where people can study for 3 months on leet code and nail the tech interview, they still won't get the job. Even though the "unbias" process says they should.
yulaow 7y ago
Most of other high skill professionals in other engineering fields that I know have a fairly easy hiring process: their degree + their license + their previous working experience is enough. The interview is basically just an hr screening to avoid jerk personalities.

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Honest question, which I can't really answer myself: Do people think the hiring process for developers is more broken as compared to other industries? My perso

by Nelkins 7y ago

SQueeeeeL 7y ago
All hiring is extremely arbitrary. The reason coding is so bad is because there's this huge myth of lower class workers becoming coders overnight, just by studying for a few months of leet code. There is an essay about the feminist movement in the 70s (https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm). It makes the reasonable point that people are likely to hire/recruit people similar to themselves. The code interviews are expected to remove this, if you stick a bunch of CS people in a room and tell them to make an unbiased interview process; you'll get the hell world we live in today. To get a job on a sales floor, most of it is just impressing the existing gate-keepers. Coders live in a fantasy world where gate keeping isn't real. Except it isn't possible to remove that from hiring, no one wants to hire someone who doesn't integrate well in their team. So we have this hellworld where people can study for 3 months on leet code and nail the tech interview, they still won't get the job. Even though the "unbias" process says they should.
yulaow 7y ago
Most of other high skill professionals in other engineering fields that I know have a fairly easy hiring process: their degree + their license + their previous working experience is enough. The interview is basically just an hr screening to avoid jerk personalities.