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You really aren't using your imagination if you can't figure out potential uses for a hidden nanny cam. What if I want to see: * If my cleaning person is stea

by asdf21 7y ago

You really aren't using your imagination if you can't figure out potential uses for a hidden nanny cam. What if I want to see: * If my cleaning person is stealing? * If my cleaning person is using the right chemicals on my stove? * If the nanny is shaking the baby? * If my husband is having an affair? * If my teenager is doing drugs? * Which sibling actually started it / threw the first punch? Those are just off the top of my head, I'm not even being creative.

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> What if I want to see: If my cleaning person is stealing?* Use your camera. The status light doesn’t disable its ability to record and transmit video. You want to record these people without their knowledge. That is just wrong. More fundamentally, change the people you interact with or your relationships with them.
- 420codebro 7y ago
  Wrong? Lol. It is my property. Obviously no one should surreptitiously record someone in an PRIVATE or INTIMATE moment, but in a free-space, in my house? That's fair game you dummy.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  > That is just wrong. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "wrong"? For instance, it's perfectly legal to record inside your house - visibly or not - provided it's not in an area or place where the user would expect privacy (usually meaning a bathroom or similar place - but could be extended to bedrooms depending on consent and other reasons). It might be considered unethical, perhaps even immoral, depending on the reasoning or ulimate purpose for those recordings. But legally there isn't anything wrong about it. Note: This all depends on your local or other laws of course...
jlarocco 7y ago
Unless you're hiring, marrying, and raising the dumbest people around, they're probably smart enough to not perform those activities in front of a video camera in any case. Security cameras don't usually have indicator lights, so the safe assumption is always that the camera is recording.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  Security cameras also don't always look like security cameras...but most (especially Nest devices) do. However, if I was trying to find out some kind of nefarious activity within my home, I wouldn't put up an obvious security camera, unless it was to redirect the potential perp toward somewhere that has the actual camera - hidden as a book, or something similar - ideally, it fits right in with its environment, and doesn't look at all out of placce...
pwinnski 7y ago
Are you filming a reality show that depends on catching a cleaning person stealing, using the wrong chemicals, etc? Or is the point to ensure your cleaning person is not stealing, using the wrong chemicals, etc? The lights boost the purpose of deterrence, while making it harder to unethically record people. That's the point. I would never have a Google-made camera in my house, and I really dislike defending them, but people who want a hidden cam need to hit up the nearest spy shop. Nest cams are for security, not "gotchas," and the always-on light serves security well.

by asdf21 7y ago

JumpCrisscross 7y ago

> What if I want to see: If my cleaning person is stealing?* Use your camera. The status light doesn’t disable its ability to record and transmit video. You want to record these people without their knowledge. That is just wrong. More fundamentally, change the people you interact with or your relationships with them.

420codebro 7y ago
Wrong? Lol. It is my property. Obviously no one should surreptitiously record someone in an PRIVATE or INTIMATE moment, but in a free-space, in my house? That's fair game you dummy.
cr0sh 7y ago
> That is just wrong. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "wrong"? For instance, it's perfectly legal to record inside your house - visibly or not - provided it's not in an area or place where the user would expect privacy (usually meaning a bathroom or similar place - but could be extended to bedrooms depending on consent and other reasons). It might be considered unethical, perhaps even immoral, depending on the reasoning or ulimate purpose for those recordings. But legally there isn't anything wrong about it. Note: This all depends on your local or other laws of course...

jlarocco 7y ago

Unless you're hiring, marrying, and raising the dumbest people around, they're probably smart enough to not perform those activities in front of a video camera in any case. Security cameras don't usually have indicator lights, so the safe assumption is always that the camera is recording.

cr0sh 7y ago
Security cameras also don't always look like security cameras...but most (especially Nest devices) do. However, if I was trying to find out some kind of nefarious activity within my home, I wouldn't put up an obvious security camera, unless it was to redirect the potential perp toward somewhere that has the actual camera - hidden as a book, or something similar - ideally, it fits right in with its environment, and doesn't look at all out of placce...

pwinnski 7y ago

Are you filming a reality show that depends on catching a cleaning person stealing, using the wrong chemicals, etc? Or is the point to ensure your cleaning person is not stealing, using the wrong chemicals, etc? The lights boost the purpose of deterrence, while making it harder to unethically record people. That's the point. I would never have a Google-made camera in my house, and I really dislike defending them, but people who want a hidden cam need to hit up the nearest spy shop. Nest cams are for security, not "gotchas," and the always-on light serves security well.