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What's the endgame here? What is this person hoping to accomplish by harassing the Twitter-jockeys at Amazon? Is Amazon supposed to say "Oh, someone was snarky

by imgabe 7y ago

What's the endgame here? What is this person hoping to accomplish by harassing the Twitter-jockeys at Amazon? Is Amazon supposed to say "Oh, someone was snarky to our employees on Twitter, now all warehouse employees make six figures and only work 20 minutes a day"? Instead of wasting time by publicly mocking someone who either A. is actually having a good experience working at Amazon B. isn't but doesn't want to lose the job that pays their rent and allows them to eat how about: - harassing your Congressional representative on Twitter, so they pass labor laws that might actually improve working conditions - organizing a union so Amazon workers can collectively bargain for better conditions - start a competing logistics company, increasing the demand for warehouse employees so that wages and working conditions have to improve to attract more workers Unless of course this is just about scoring retweets and fake Internet points and isn't an attempt to produce any real meaningful change

stnmtn 7y ago
Should people not complain about a company's poor work conditions on a public forum? I'm really confused, because what you're arguing here is that there is no reason to say anything ever unless you are taking immediate action to fix that. I mean, by your logic, couldn't I ask you why you are making this post and not instead making lasting change by starting a competing social media site where no non-impactful conversations happen?
- imgabe 7y ago
  By all means, complain. Complain to the perpetrators of the injustice and complain to the government that is supposed to regulate them. Don't complain to the victims that they are not acting sufficiently victim-like to confirm your preconceived notions of what their lives are like based on that 10 minute John Oliver segment you watched.
  - stnmtn 7y ago
    I mean the people she's complaining to are part of the problem, they are people who are being paid to post pro-amazon content on twitter that share accounts, most likely using something like sprinklr. If these were real people just saying this, then sure, but you can not actually look at this exchange and think amazon doesn't come out looking even worse.
    - imgabe 7y ago
      They are real people unless you mean they're AI bots, in which case harassing them is even more pointless. They have zero ability to effect any of the changes she is complaining about. This is the equivalent of yelling at a customer service rep. It's not going to get you anything you want and it just makes you look like an asshole.
neaden 7y ago
I mean, she did just get a whole bunch of people talking about Amazon's working conditions and have multiple news articles posted about it. So it seems like she accomplished something.
wildrhythms 7y ago
>What's the endgame here? To expose questionable corporate PR tactics. Surely if Amazon actually cared about improving their public image they would fix the issues that are causing them problems instead of spending time and money employing people to rain praises for pay on social media, right?

by imgabe 7y ago

stnmtn 7y ago

Should people not complain about a company's poor work conditions on a public forum? I'm really confused, because what you're arguing here is that there is no reason to say anything ever unless you are taking immediate action to fix that. I mean, by your logic, couldn't I ask you why you are making this post and not instead making lasting change by starting a competing social media site where no non-impactful conversations happen?

imgabe 7y ago
By all means, complain. Complain to the perpetrators of the injustice and complain to the government that is supposed to regulate them. Don't complain to the victims that they are not acting sufficiently victim-like to confirm your preconceived notions of what their lives are like based on that 10 minute John Oliver segment you watched.
- stnmtn 7y ago
  I mean the people she's complaining to are part of the problem, they are people who are being paid to post pro-amazon content on twitter that share accounts, most likely using something like sprinklr. If these were real people just saying this, then sure, but you can not actually look at this exchange and think amazon doesn't come out looking even worse.
  - imgabe 7y ago
    They are real people unless you mean they're AI bots, in which case harassing them is even more pointless. They have zero ability to effect any of the changes she is complaining about. This is the equivalent of yelling at a customer service rep. It's not going to get you anything you want and it just makes you look like an asshole.

neaden 7y ago

I mean, she did just get a whole bunch of people talking about Amazon's working conditions and have multiple news articles posted about it. So it seems like she accomplished something.

wildrhythms 7y ago

>What's the endgame here? To expose questionable corporate PR tactics. Surely if Amazon actually cared about improving their public image they would fix the issues that are causing them problems instead of spending time and money employing people to rain praises for pay on social media, right?