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“Hindi, Hindu, Hindustan”, this takes Hindu as identity like American and not a religion. “When there are other regions ...”, no, laws passed by the parliament

“Hindi, Hindu, Hindustan”, this takes Hindu as identity like American and not a religion. “When there are other regions ...”, no, laws passed by the parliament were applicable everywhere except in Kashmir. So you had gems like child marriage not outlawed. It’s lazy and biased journalism to just label them Hindu nationalists and portray them like some sort of evil overlords. India for centuries has been the most inclusive place in the world. Let’s not try and paint the majority as some kind of a clan of idiot oppressors.

iamshs 7y ago
But I am being told above that India is a secular democracy? So how come India wants a religion as an identity? Keeping that aside though: 1. What is Hindu culture? Answer: It is a way to subjugate and bulldoze minorities and their culture. Hence the insidious name, acceptable to the majority and any opposition instantly termed as anti-Hindus. There is no need for such a divisive slogan when Indian culture already exists. It intentinally conflates Indian culture with made-up term 'Hindu culture'. 2. Why is the slogan being given by a Hindu Nationalist party? Answer: Hindu religion is their raison d'etre. They carry out their activities with justification as being benefitting Hindus solely. 3. Why does the slogan involve similar tones and reach as, "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"? Fact: Members of this Hindu nationalist party (B.S. Moonje) met Mussolini and transported same bullshit to India. Golwalkar openly admired Hitler. These are people in power in India presently. 4. Why are the Indian cities names given by Muslim rulers being changed on lines of Hindu religious basis? Example: Allahabad has been changed to Pragyaraj, because Allah-abad is deemed as a Muslim name. Answer: Subjugation on religious lines to consolidate majority. 5. Try going to North East India without a special entry pass. Doesn't matter if you are India, you cannot certain North-East states enter without an Inner Line permit. 6. You cannot buy real estate in certain Indian states, like Himachal Pradesh. Doesn't matter if you are Indian or not. 7. They are Hindu Nationalists because they are using Hindu religion to consolidate majority, and are carrying out actions that they have wanted since independence. Hindu Nationalists killed Gandhi and were outlawed afterwards. 8. Let's not paint whole nation or its government as tolerant. In recent history, India has supported several terrorist movements in other nations.
- eklavya 7y ago
  Citations needed!! Citations needed!! 1. What is Hindu culture? Answer: A very ancient inclusive and compassionate culture. Even the name hindu was given by Persians/Arabs. 2. Why is the slogan being given by a Hindu Nationalist party? The slogan was given to unify the nation and recognise the rich culture and heritage. 3. Why does the slogan involve similar tones and reach as, "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"? Stop with the nonsense please. I have even seen people draw equivalence like, Swastika-Nazi, Swastika-Hindu, Hindu-Nazi. 4. Why are the Indian cities names given by Muslim rulers being changed on lines of Hindu religious basis? Why should a culture of thousands of years not roll back to the actual names for places which were changed by invaders? What has religion got to do with it? Should we also praise the queen? 5. Try going to North East India without a special entry pass. Having booked hotel tickets all over north east for my parent's visits, I would say please stop with your propaganda. 6. You cannot buy real estate in certain Indian states, like Himachal Pradesh. Unless you have been living there for some time. In Kashmir people who have been living for more than even 50 years didn't have voting and property rights. 7. They are Hindu Nationalists because they are using Hindu religion to consolidate majority, and are carrying out actions that they have wanted since independence. Hindu Nationalists killed Gandhi and were outlawed afterwards. I am a Hindu and I am a nationalist. I don't want to kill people or put them under oppressive regimes like sharia. Being a hindu makes people evil? Is that your deciding criterion? 8. Let's not paint whole nation or its government as tolerant. In recent history, India has supported several terrorist movements in other nations. Are you confusing India with Pakistan?
  - iamshs 7y ago
    >A very ancient inclusive and compassionate culture. Even the name hindu was given by Persians/Arabs. What a complete bullshit of a definition. What are you even describing with that statement? >The slogan was given to unify the nation and recognise the rich culture and heritage. Why does the nation need unity? Why cannot rich culture and heritage not be recognized without a slogan? >Stop with the nonsense please. I have even seen people draw equivalence like, Swastika-Nazi, Swastika-Hindu, Hindu-Nazi. So you have no answer. Swastika is a Hindu symbol unofrtunately appropriated by Nazis. >Why should a culture of thousands of years not roll back to the actual names for places which were changed by invaders? What has religion got to do with it? Should we also praise the queen? Akbar was not invader, he was a third generation Indian. You are addressing him with 'invader' moniker because he was a Muslim. Simple. Well, ample number of Indians praise the queen. Punjab premier, Amarinder Singh, in fact has a portrait of his grandfather attending Queen Elizabeth's coronation ceremony which he displays out in the front. >Having booked hotel tickets all over north east for my parent's visits, I would say please stop with your propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Line_Permit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Line_Permit - You cannot visit Nagaland, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh without ILP. So better arrange them for your parents. I have ample experience in North East. >Unless you have been living there for some time. In Kashmir people who have been living for more than even 50 years didn't have voting and property rights. You cannot buy real estate in Himachal Pradesh as an outsider. Period. It doesn't matter how many years you have been living there. Ample experience there. >I am a Hindu and I am a nationalist. I don't want to kill people or put them under oppressive regimes like sharia. Being a hindu makes people evil? Is that your deciding criterion? Mis-direction. Consolidation majority under name of religion is religious nationalism. >Are you confusing India with Pakistan? Search up Mukti Bahini in Bangladesh, LTTE in Sri Lanka, Balochistan/TTP militancy in Pakistan. Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

iamshs 7y ago

But I am being told above that India is a secular democracy? So how come India wants a religion as an identity? Keeping that aside though: 1. What is Hindu culture? Answer: It is a way to subjugate and bulldoze minorities and their culture. Hence the insidious name, acceptable to the majority and any opposition instantly termed as anti-Hindus. There is no need for such a divisive slogan when Indian culture already exists. It intentinally conflates Indian culture with made-up term 'Hindu culture'. 2. Why is the slogan being given by a Hindu Nationalist party? Answer: Hindu religion is their raison d'etre. They carry out their activities with justification as being benefitting Hindus solely. 3. Why does the slogan involve similar tones and reach as, "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"? Fact: Members of this Hindu nationalist party (B.S. Moonje) met Mussolini and transported same bullshit to India. Golwalkar openly admired Hitler. These are people in power in India presently. 4. Why are the Indian cities names given by Muslim rulers being changed on lines of Hindu religious basis? Example: Allahabad has been changed to Pragyaraj, because Allah-abad is deemed as a Muslim name. Answer: Subjugation on religious lines to consolidate majority. 5. Try going to North East India without a special entry pass. Doesn't matter if you are India, you cannot certain North-East states enter without an Inner Line permit. 6. You cannot buy real estate in certain Indian states, like Himachal Pradesh. Doesn't matter if you are Indian or not. 7. They are Hindu Nationalists because they are using Hindu religion to consolidate majority, and are carrying out actions that they have wanted since independence. Hindu Nationalists killed Gandhi and were outlawed afterwards. 8. Let's not paint whole nation or its government as tolerant. In recent history, India has supported several terrorist movements in other nations.

eklavya 7y ago
Citations needed!! Citations needed!! 1. What is Hindu culture? Answer: A very ancient inclusive and compassionate culture. Even the name hindu was given by Persians/Arabs. 2. Why is the slogan being given by a Hindu Nationalist party? The slogan was given to unify the nation and recognise the rich culture and heritage. 3. Why does the slogan involve similar tones and reach as, "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"? Stop with the nonsense please. I have even seen people draw equivalence like, Swastika-Nazi, Swastika-Hindu, Hindu-Nazi. 4. Why are the Indian cities names given by Muslim rulers being changed on lines of Hindu religious basis? Why should a culture of thousands of years not roll back to the actual names for places which were changed by invaders? What has religion got to do with it? Should we also praise the queen? 5. Try going to North East India without a special entry pass. Having booked hotel tickets all over north east for my parent's visits, I would say please stop with your propaganda. 6. You cannot buy real estate in certain Indian states, like Himachal Pradesh. Unless you have been living there for some time. In Kashmir people who have been living for more than even 50 years didn't have voting and property rights. 7. They are Hindu Nationalists because they are using Hindu religion to consolidate majority, and are carrying out actions that they have wanted since independence. Hindu Nationalists killed Gandhi and were outlawed afterwards. I am a Hindu and I am a nationalist. I don't want to kill people or put them under oppressive regimes like sharia. Being a hindu makes people evil? Is that your deciding criterion? 8. Let's not paint whole nation or its government as tolerant. In recent history, India has supported several terrorist movements in other nations. Are you confusing India with Pakistan?
- iamshs 7y ago
  >A very ancient inclusive and compassionate culture. Even the name hindu was given by Persians/Arabs. What a complete bullshit of a definition. What are you even describing with that statement? >The slogan was given to unify the nation and recognise the rich culture and heritage. Why does the nation need unity? Why cannot rich culture and heritage not be recognized without a slogan? >Stop with the nonsense please. I have even seen people draw equivalence like, Swastika-Nazi, Swastika-Hindu, Hindu-Nazi. So you have no answer. Swastika is a Hindu symbol unofrtunately appropriated by Nazis. >Why should a culture of thousands of years not roll back to the actual names for places which were changed by invaders? What has religion got to do with it? Should we also praise the queen? Akbar was not invader, he was a third generation Indian. You are addressing him with 'invader' moniker because he was a Muslim. Simple. Well, ample number of Indians praise the queen. Punjab premier, Amarinder Singh, in fact has a portrait of his grandfather attending Queen Elizabeth's coronation ceremony which he displays out in the front. >Having booked hotel tickets all over north east for my parent's visits, I would say please stop with your propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Line_Permit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Line_Permit - You cannot visit Nagaland, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh without ILP. So better arrange them for your parents. I have ample experience in North East. >Unless you have been living there for some time. In Kashmir people who have been living for more than even 50 years didn't have voting and property rights. You cannot buy real estate in Himachal Pradesh as an outsider. Period. It doesn't matter how many years you have been living there. Ample experience there. >I am a Hindu and I am a nationalist. I don't want to kill people or put them under oppressive regimes like sharia. Being a hindu makes people evil? Is that your deciding criterion? Mis-direction. Consolidation majority under name of religion is religious nationalism. >Are you confusing India with Pakistan? Search up Mukti Bahini in Bangladesh, LTTE in Sri Lanka, Balochistan/TTP militancy in Pakistan. Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.