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I think it's a bit of an unfair characterization. I don't use emac or CLI as my client, I enjoy a beautiful UI as much as the next guy but electron is a real bo

I think it's a bit of an unfair characterization. I don't use emac or CLI as my client, I enjoy a beautiful UI as much as the next guy but electron is a real bother to me. I switched from Sublime to VS Code and went from 20MB of RAM usage to 500. Add slack, add discord, you now have GBs of RAM getting eaten up just for the UIs. Most mid-range laptops still only have 8GB of RAM, add a browser to the mix and it's a constant battle to have everything running smoothly, the programs frequently crash due to memory issues. It's a real problem and not solely programmer efficiency-OCD.

ryacko 7y ago
Electron is also using an old version of Chromium, and most electron apps are slow to update, making it more insecure than running the web app.
- itsananderson 7y ago
  While it's fair to assume most Electron apps are probably running old Electron (and thus Chromium), Electron itself has done a bunch of work to get caught up. Their 6.0 release was the first release to be shipped on the same day as the equivalent Chrome release https://electronjs.org/blog/electron-6-0 https://electronjs.org/blog/electron-6-0 their plan is to stay at most one version behind https://electronjs.org/blog/12-week-cadence https://electronjs.org/blog/12-week-cadence
NateEag 7y ago
Huh. My laptop has 8 gigs of RAM, and I run many programs simultaneously (usually including several codebase analysis servers behind Emacs, a VirtualBox VM or two, Slack, and of course tens of Chrome tabs, several in development mode), but I don't have anything like the problems you describe. I do use The Great Suspender aggressively in Chrome and that does help a lot. My Emacs instance itself is extremely tricked out with extensions and usually weighs in between 100 and 200 MB of RAM. Maybe that's the difference - sounds like VS Code eats a lot more. I'm on a MacBook Pro from 2015 at work, if memory serves. What setup are you running that handles your needs so poorly?
- ad404b8a372f2b9 7y ago
  I'm impressed you can run all that especially multiple VMs on 8gb, I have to close Firefox when I need VMs. I'm on windows 7, on a Dell Inspiron with a RAM and disk upgrade, no special configuration or software. I didn't think to look for an addon to do that, that's pretty cool, I downloaded the Firefox equivalent, might do the trick!
  - NateEag 7y ago
    I double-checked now that I'm back at work, and I was flat-out wrong. This machine has 16 GB. No wonder I don't have issues. I hope tab suspension helps you. It certainly made Chrome more usable for me (but I do have a bad habit of getting to fifty or seventy tabs open).

ryacko 7y ago

Electron is also using an old version of Chromium, and most electron apps are slow to update, making it more insecure than running the web app.

itsananderson 7y ago
While it's fair to assume most Electron apps are probably running old Electron (and thus Chromium), Electron itself has done a bunch of work to get caught up. Their 6.0 release was the first release to be shipped on the same day as the equivalent Chrome release https://electronjs.org/blog/electron-6-0 https://electronjs.org/blog/electron-6-0 their plan is to stay at most one version behind https://electronjs.org/blog/12-week-cadence https://electronjs.org/blog/12-week-cadence

NateEag 7y ago

Huh. My laptop has 8 gigs of RAM, and I run many programs simultaneously (usually including several codebase analysis servers behind Emacs, a VirtualBox VM or two, Slack, and of course tens of Chrome tabs, several in development mode), but I don't have anything like the problems you describe. I do use The Great Suspender aggressively in Chrome and that does help a lot. My Emacs instance itself is extremely tricked out with extensions and usually weighs in between 100 and 200 MB of RAM. Maybe that's the difference - sounds like VS Code eats a lot more. I'm on a MacBook Pro from 2015 at work, if memory serves. What setup are you running that handles your needs so poorly?

ad404b8a372f2b9 7y ago
I'm impressed you can run all that especially multiple VMs on 8gb, I have to close Firefox when I need VMs. I'm on windows 7, on a Dell Inspiron with a RAM and disk upgrade, no special configuration or software. I didn't think to look for an addon to do that, that's pretty cool, I downloaded the Firefox equivalent, might do the trick!
- NateEag 7y ago
  I double-checked now that I'm back at work, and I was flat-out wrong. This machine has 16 GB. No wonder I don't have issues. I hope tab suspension helps you. It certainly made Chrome more usable for me (but I do have a bad habit of getting to fifty or seventy tabs open).