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TDLR; Company owned by oppressive regime helps other oppressive regimes prosper in exchange for unfetted access to the countries resources. There is news here.

by weq 7y ago

TDLR; Company owned by oppressive regime helps other oppressive regimes prosper in exchange for unfetted access to the countries resources. There is news here. But its not about spying. https://greenworldwarriors.com/2019/03/06/ugandas-main-assets-taken-over-huge-unpaid-chinese-loans-and-dept/ https://greenworldwarriors.com/2019/03/06/ugandas-main-asset... https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2134438/chinas-fishing-industry-dwarfs-rest-worlds-study-suggests https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2134438/chin...

jimclegg 7y ago
Shocking that Israel barely gets a mention in this article (you know, the actual supplier of the surveillance tech used). So we just ignore that Israeli companies sell spy tech to every corrupt government on the planet and instead focus on demonizing Huawei giving Africans cheap 5G? Trade war inspired reporting, not surprising coming from the Murdoch rag WSJ.
- flagfeedingusa 7y ago
  Mentioning Israel or someone who is jewish, in any way, regardless of whether or not its true is anti-semitic. The fact that you'd even udder the word "Israel" means you are, in fact on par with being a nazi.
hrktb 7y ago
I find the term “oppresive” to be more and more difficult to get a handle on when everything is on a spectrum now. People draw the line somewhere that puts them in the “non-appressive” camp, and justify it in so many ways (“you can’t compare because the other side does really bad things”), but it tends to hide how the lines are much more murky, the “oppressive” side is supported from the other countries, which also look at it like a live experiment to see how far they could get away with it. Before Huawei it was european or US companies that where eyeing the market, and I feel like Huawei just happened to win the bids so we can now point the finger at them.
rntksi 7y ago
Quoted directly from the article: "The Journal investigation didn’t turn up evidence of spying by or on behalf of Beijing in Africa. Nor did it find that Huawei executives in China knew of, directed or approved the activities described. It also didn’t find that there was something particular about the technology in Huawei’s network that made such activities possible." There were activities that infringed privacy, but (I believe) not attributable to Huawei hardware or anything. In the article it mentions Huawei employees helping the govt get malware/insider onto the Whatsapp group chat.
- teknologist 7y ago
  Does it have OTA firmware updates? If yes then anything is possible.
chrisjc 7y ago
As mentioned in another story on HN, the Huawei ownership structure is a little more complicated than you suggest, although the essence is the same. Listen to the Acquired podcast for a more thorough history of Huawei. https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/huawei https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/huawei

by weq 7y ago

jimclegg 7y ago

Shocking that Israel barely gets a mention in this article (you know, the actual supplier of the surveillance tech used). So we just ignore that Israeli companies sell spy tech to every corrupt government on the planet and instead focus on demonizing Huawei giving Africans cheap 5G? Trade war inspired reporting, not surprising coming from the Murdoch rag WSJ.

flagfeedingusa 7y ago
Mentioning Israel or someone who is jewish, in any way, regardless of whether or not its true is anti-semitic. The fact that you'd even udder the word "Israel" means you are, in fact on par with being a nazi.

hrktb 7y ago

I find the term “oppresive” to be more and more difficult to get a handle on when everything is on a spectrum now. People draw the line somewhere that puts them in the “non-appressive” camp, and justify it in so many ways (“you can’t compare because the other side does really bad things”), but it tends to hide how the lines are much more murky, the “oppressive” side is supported from the other countries, which also look at it like a live experiment to see how far they could get away with it. Before Huawei it was european or US companies that where eyeing the market, and I feel like Huawei just happened to win the bids so we can now point the finger at them.

rntksi 7y ago

Quoted directly from the article: "The Journal investigation didn’t turn up evidence of spying by or on behalf of Beijing in Africa. Nor did it find that Huawei executives in China knew of, directed or approved the activities described. It also didn’t find that there was something particular about the technology in Huawei’s network that made such activities possible." There were activities that infringed privacy, but (I believe) not attributable to Huawei hardware or anything. In the article it mentions Huawei employees helping the govt get malware/insider onto the Whatsapp group chat.

teknologist 7y ago
Does it have OTA firmware updates? If yes then anything is possible.

chrisjc 7y ago

As mentioned in another story on HN, the Huawei ownership structure is a little more complicated than you suggest, although the essence is the same. Listen to the Acquired podcast for a more thorough history of Huawei. https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/huawei https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/huawei