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it's time to factor in guaranteed exposure of data when considering pros/cons of consuming any online service. questions i've been asking myself lately: - how

it's time to factor in guaranteed exposure of data when considering pros/cons of consuming any online service. questions i've been asking myself lately: - how embarrassing or worse would an HN data breach (plug in favorite $social_network) be to me when logs are exposed that link my activity in a way that can trivially deanonymize me? how much does this reduce the value of consuming the service in the first place? - how embarrassing or worse would a data breach at Uber/Lyft/other ride sharing be for me? consider exposure of geolocation + timestamps. how much does this reduce the value of consuming the service in the first place? - repeat for things like online dating or whatever else these additional questions have helped me put risk vs. reward into perspective when consuming services, no matter where they live or how useful they seem prima facie.

buboard 7y ago
My bigger question is why are people embarassed for their opinions even if they were expressed as trollish? There was a time when it was normal to disagree with people
- Retric 7y ago
  Every group believes in something dumb. People often hide disagreements to fit in.
  - buboard 7y ago
    so either the group is fake, or the members are lying. what kind of group is that
    - Retric 7y ago
      As far as I can tell every groups holds these beliefs. I kind of wonder if holding / pretending to hold false beliefs is what holds groups together. Something a informal as friends watching some sport often have lucky items or rituals that show up over time. The degree to which this is simply an in joke can change over time especially when groups grow.
      - buboard 7y ago
        Usually group formation requires people to collectively forget something. Its not common to require creating false beliefs.
        Retric 7y ago
        collectively forget something What do you mean by this?
        buboard 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_a_Nation%3F#Forgetfulness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_a_Nation%3F#Forgetfuln...
        Retric 7y ago
        “Forgetfulness, and I would even say historical error” Seems to be the same or at least very similar idea.
    - lonelappde 7y ago
      A group of neurotypical humans.
- Mountain_Skies 7y ago
  It's not just a question of embarrassment. There are activists who specialize in identifying people who engage in wrongthink and contact their employer to get them fired from their job. Employers who don't comply face boycotts and social media attacks on their reputation.
  - Ascetik 7y ago
    Indeed. I was doxxed over a religious position I hold and underwent a 3 month investigation at work for it. It was absolutely horrible and very stressful. I have a family and small children. Some psycho who just couldn't handle that someone diaagrees with them spent the actual time to call my employer with the malicious intent to get me fired. That this type of behavior is tolerated by corporations is a gross injustice and it should be illegal.
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  - lonelappde 7y ago
    You could also get killed by a drunk driver or shot in a random spree. It's terrible but the odds of it happening are too small to organize your individual life around.
cmroanirgo 7y ago
Are you talking of comments you've posted, or do you have more specific concerns? Your comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=USERNAME https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=USERNAME In API form: https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/user/USERNAME.json?print=pretty https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/user/USERNAME.json?pri... Everything you do here is rather public...
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buboard 7y ago

My bigger question is why are people embarassed for their opinions even if they were expressed as trollish? There was a time when it was normal to disagree with people

Retric 7y ago
Every group believes in something dumb. People often hide disagreements to fit in.
- buboard 7y ago
  so either the group is fake, or the members are lying. what kind of group is that
  - Retric 7y ago
    As far as I can tell every groups holds these beliefs. I kind of wonder if holding / pretending to hold false beliefs is what holds groups together. Something a informal as friends watching some sport often have lucky items or rituals that show up over time. The degree to which this is simply an in joke can change over time especially when groups grow.
    - buboard 7y ago
      Usually group formation requires people to collectively forget something. Its not common to require creating false beliefs.
      - Retric 7y ago
        collectively forget something What do you mean by this?
        buboard 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_a_Nation%3F#Forgetfulness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_a_Nation%3F#Forgetfuln...
        Retric 7y ago
        “Forgetfulness, and I would even say historical error” Seems to be the same or at least very similar idea.
  - lonelappde 7y ago
    A group of neurotypical humans.
Mountain_Skies 7y ago
It's not just a question of embarrassment. There are activists who specialize in identifying people who engage in wrongthink and contact their employer to get them fired from their job. Employers who don't comply face boycotts and social media attacks on their reputation.
- Ascetik 7y ago
  Indeed. I was doxxed over a religious position I hold and underwent a 3 month investigation at work for it. It was absolutely horrible and very stressful. I have a family and small children. Some psycho who just couldn't handle that someone diaagrees with them spent the actual time to call my employer with the malicious intent to get me fired. That this type of behavior is tolerated by corporations is a gross injustice and it should be illegal.
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- lonelappde 7y ago
  You could also get killed by a drunk driver or shot in a random spree. It's terrible but the odds of it happening are too small to organize your individual life around.

cmroanirgo 7y ago

Are you talking of comments you've posted, or do you have more specific concerns? Your comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=USERNAME https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=USERNAME In API form: https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/user/USERNAME.json?print=pretty https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/user/USERNAME.json?pri... Everything you do here is rather public...

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