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> So out of hundreds you interviewed, it doesn’t appear that anyone over 30 was hired. What did the age breakdown look like? Ageism does exist in tech. Not aff

> So out of hundreds you interviewed, it doesn’t appear that anyone over 30 was hired. What did the age breakdown look like? Ageism does exist in tech. Not affiliated with the company in the article, but this isn't necessarily a symptom of ageism. Early-stage startups generally pay toward the lower end of the SF engineer pay scale (<$150k). At that salary, it can be hard to find local experienced candidates. For $150k/year it's impossible to buy a house and put down roots, so people at a stage in life that value that (which is a significant percentage of the over-30 demographic) will often move out of the Bay Area. You'll make a bit less money in Denver, Austin, Boise or Salt Lake City, but you'll be able to buy a house with a yard and raise a family if that's your thing. Of course, there are still experienced engineers around, but they're disproportionately making $300k+, which can still buy you a decent quality of life in the Bay Area.

ryandrake 7y ago
When the outcome of a process results in a disparity (along racial, gender, etc. lines), people generally agree that the process is discriminatory, regardless of whether there was an intent to discriminate. If the output of a hiring process results in all men being hired and no women, people would be correct to raise a concern. So if the output of a hiring process results in all hires being young and none old, should there not be similar concerns?
- AlexB138 7y ago
  > When the outcome of a process results in a disparity (along racial, gender, etc. lines), people generally agree that the process is discriminatory, regardless of whether there was an intent to discriminate. No, people do not generally agree that a process with a clear cause resulting in an explainable distribution that doesn't reflect society at large is discriminatory. A very specific political view suggests that. You don't see a lot of female construction workers. Sometimes only a specific group is willing to do, or capable of doing, a job for a perfectly acceptable reason.

ryandrake 7y ago

When the outcome of a process results in a disparity (along racial, gender, etc. lines), people generally agree that the process is discriminatory, regardless of whether there was an intent to discriminate. If the output of a hiring process results in all men being hired and no women, people would be correct to raise a concern. So if the output of a hiring process results in all hires being young and none old, should there not be similar concerns?

AlexB138 7y ago
> When the outcome of a process results in a disparity (along racial, gender, etc. lines), people generally agree that the process is discriminatory, regardless of whether there was an intent to discriminate. No, people do not generally agree that a process with a clear cause resulting in an explainable distribution that doesn't reflect society at large is discriminatory. A very specific political view suggests that. You don't see a lot of female construction workers. Sometimes only a specific group is willing to do, or capable of doing, a job for a perfectly acceptable reason.