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Around 2013 it was bothering me that the process of typing my question into Google, then clicking on the first result, then scrolling down to the most useful an

by w-m 7y ago

Around 2013 it was bothering me that the process of typing my question into Google, then clicking on the first result, then scrolling down to the most useful answer took so much time and interaction, to get simple answers of things I just couldn't remember. Let's say I forgot how to concatenate a list of strings in Python and wanted to find out. So I built http://www.stacksnippet.com/ http://www.stacksnippet.com/ back then, leveraging Google search results which work well for natural queries and retrieving the StackOverflow answers. The actual answers are listed directly on the search page in a compact format. After dogfooding this for a while I found that it really is just not that useful. The questions that I had that could be answered in one-liners came in bursts, but the format wasn't great for answering all queries I had. Not figuring out a good direction where to go with this I abandoned it quickly after building, but it's nice that it's still working, 5 years later (albeit without https).

swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
Great idea, I like how quickly basic questions like 'javascript combine array' gives me instant code snippets that tell me I was looking for the .concat opertor. I wonder if there is a way to have a confidence in the answers and to redirect you to the good old fashioned Google if there doesn't appear to be relevant info. I also understand this is among the most challenging problems facing Computer Science today.
- marcmaia 7y ago
  That is a great point to score the confidence the search mechanism has in the answers, either because it couldn't match the query adequately, or because the answers don't have high standard quality. If the confidence is not high, we could at least warn about that, or maybe help the user enhance the query.
- w-m 7y ago
  It's hard competing with Google, the Crokerage answers to the example they use ("how to remove an element from an array" in Java) gives me ArrayList<char> charList = new ArrayList<char>(0); for (int i= 0; i < b.length; i++) { if (b[i] == condition) { charList.Add(b[i]); } } charList.toArray(); in Crokerage and array = ArrayUtils.removeElement(array, element) in Google/Stacksnippet. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes that Google have a way of determining the confidence in the answers and have some algorithm that is able to reliably give a code answer. I'm sure they'll immediately put this in their snippet then, removing the need to click the StackOverflow links any more.
gregmac 7y ago
Glad to see this at least orders by votes. One of the problems StackOverflow is facing due to its age is that what was (correctly) accepted as the best answer 5 years ago isn't always the best answer today. For some questions, the better answer has more upvotes, and this reflects that. I kind of wish StackOverflow had something like "Order by most votes in the past year" or "Order by most recent 50% of votes" or something, as it would probably be more accurate, but I get that it's complex both technically and from a UX perspective.
- w-m 7y ago
  It really shouldn't be that hard. The behavior could work by question: it's fine to show the accepted answer while the original asker is maintaining the question. But if a question gets a lot of new answers without the original answerer reacting any more, just change the algorithm to show the answer with the most votes in the pas month/year.
- deleted 7y ago
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- dmortin 7y ago
  Go to https://meta.stackoverflow.com/ https://meta.stackoverflow.com/ and add your proposal as a question (don't have to be in actual question format, as existing examples show). This is a problem which should be solved.
- robocat 7y ago
  I wish stackoverflow would come up with a way to make an expert's votes count more. It already has a system for a vote's value to go from 0 (you can't) to 1. I want each of Jon Skeet's votes to be worth more (or more depending on knowledge domain like C#?). Maybe the top limit is a 4x multiplier? I would like the same for hacker news e.g. if patio11 adds the 1000th comment in a thread, I want to see it. Perhaps even individually ranked: opt in to get a clintside ordering of a discussion that uses my own up and down votes to help re-rank the comments. Stackoverflow is frustrating because experts get much the same influence as ignorants. I am forced to read every answer and comment to find the information gold (the ranking helps, but it doesn't help enough). Best answers almost invariably are written badly and don't cover corner cases (possibly it is because I usually have to find JavaScript answers, or because JavaScript is hard to write well).
eternalny1 7y ago
This is nice ... I threw something totally random at it ("png to base64 c#") and it gave the exact snippet it should.
dmortin 7y ago
Great tool! Very useful.

by w-m 7y ago

swagasaurus-rex 7y ago

Great idea, I like how quickly basic questions like 'javascript combine array' gives me instant code snippets that tell me I was looking for the .concat opertor. I wonder if there is a way to have a confidence in the answers and to redirect you to the good old fashioned Google if there doesn't appear to be relevant info. I also understand this is among the most challenging problems facing Computer Science today.

marcmaia 7y ago
That is a great point to score the confidence the search mechanism has in the answers, either because it couldn't match the query adequately, or because the answers don't have high standard quality. If the confidence is not high, we could at least warn about that, or maybe help the user enhance the query.
w-m 7y ago
It's hard competing with Google, the Crokerage answers to the example they use ("how to remove an element from an array" in Java) gives me ArrayList<char> charList = new ArrayList<char>(0); for (int i= 0; i < b.length; i++) { if (b[i] == condition) { charList.Add(b[i]); } } charList.toArray(); in Crokerage and array = ArrayUtils.removeElement(array, element) in Google/Stacksnippet. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes that Google have a way of determining the confidence in the answers and have some algorithm that is able to reliably give a code answer. I'm sure they'll immediately put this in their snippet then, removing the need to click the StackOverflow links any more.

gregmac 7y ago

Glad to see this at least orders by votes. One of the problems StackOverflow is facing due to its age is that what was (correctly) accepted as the best answer 5 years ago isn't always the best answer today. For some questions, the better answer has more upvotes, and this reflects that. I kind of wish StackOverflow had something like "Order by most votes in the past year" or "Order by most recent 50% of votes" or something, as it would probably be more accurate, but I get that it's complex both technically and from a UX perspective.

w-m 7y ago
It really shouldn't be that hard. The behavior could work by question: it's fine to show the accepted answer while the original asker is maintaining the question. But if a question gets a lot of new answers without the original answerer reacting any more, just change the algorithm to show the answer with the most votes in the pas month/year.
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dmortin 7y ago
Go to https://meta.stackoverflow.com/ https://meta.stackoverflow.com/ and add your proposal as a question (don't have to be in actual question format, as existing examples show). This is a problem which should be solved.
robocat 7y ago
I wish stackoverflow would come up with a way to make an expert's votes count more. It already has a system for a vote's value to go from 0 (you can't) to 1. I want each of Jon Skeet's votes to be worth more (or more depending on knowledge domain like C#?). Maybe the top limit is a 4x multiplier? I would like the same for hacker news e.g. if patio11 adds the 1000th comment in a thread, I want to see it. Perhaps even individually ranked: opt in to get a clintside ordering of a discussion that uses my own up and down votes to help re-rank the comments. Stackoverflow is frustrating because experts get much the same influence as ignorants. I am forced to read every answer and comment to find the information gold (the ranking helps, but it doesn't help enough). Best answers almost invariably are written badly and don't cover corner cases (possibly it is because I usually have to find JavaScript answers, or because JavaScript is hard to write well).

eternalny1 7y ago

This is nice ... I threw something totally random at it ("png to base64 c#") and it gave the exact snippet it should.

dmortin 7y ago

Great tool! Very useful.