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Keep in mind, while you cheer on ending the tech industry's free reign and bringing in adult supervision and regulation, that this is what it means.
by closeparen 7y ago
Keep in mind, while you cheer on ending the tech industry's free reign and bringing in adult supervision and regulation, that this is what it means.
- aviraldg 7y agoCan someone help me understand why technologists and entrepreneurs on HN cheer on "ending the tech industry's free reign", when they are part of the very same tech industry?
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- rocqua 7y agoBecause those closest to a thing can see the bad things it does. If you then conclude that doing the bad thing is game-theoretically rational, then regulation is needed. Hence, you cheer on adding regulation.
- closeparen 7y agoOne of the problems with the regulation debate framed in terms of "more vs. less" is that it's easy to assume increased regulation will fix what you consider bad and preserve what you consider good, or that deregulation will only cut pointless bureaucracy. It's distressing that the support is for more regulation in general (which can be easily coopted to support stuff like this), rather than specific policies or outcomes.
- rocqua 7y agoIt's a response to the conservative voice saying 'deregulate everything'. You first need to argue for regulation per se before you can argue for specific regulations. The nuanced position of 'regulation isn't inherently good, but this specific policy is' is blown away in the public debate by 'REGULATION BAD'.
- neltnerb 7y agoI have heard several stories about industry groups preferring government regulation to the status quo because game theory made it impossible to self-regulate effectively. It makes sense to me, no agreement will hold if any one person can violate it with nothing to stop them.
- jayd16 7y agoContrarian voices are amplified. No one writes, or at least upvotes articles saying "everything is pretty ok."
- checktheorder 7y agoI think a lot of the entrepreneurs here are having difficulty in competing on the open market with the FAANGs and not-quite-as-big-as-FAANGs-but-still-big companies. They don't really want to end the tech industry's free reign. They just want to see themselves replacing the current top dogs.
- jayd16 7y agoA shallow sentiment. Every policy should be weighed on its merits. This would suck, plenty of other policies would be fine.
- mtgx 7y agoOh no, I realize this all too well. In fact I warned about it since two years ago, saying something along the lines of: "Tech companies need to stop screwing over their users as if it doesn't even matter if the users don't like what they are doing. The users aka the "fans" are what often protects them from regulation, because many are quick to defend such companies. But if the companies purposefully try to lose this goodwill with idiotic actions then there will be nobody there to speak for them in the end. In fact, the people will speak against them." I will defend encryption, of course, but I will not "blanket support tech companies" just because certain regulations put certain internet freedoms at risk.
- gbrown 7y agoAs stated, this is simply fallacious - "Supporting some regulation means you must support all regulation."