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If you are looking for factual reporting, why did you personally take the time to create FUD around a sourced fact in one article, regarding the Telegraph lying

If you are looking for factual reporting, why did you personally take the time to create FUD around a sourced fact in one article, regarding the Telegraph lying about a poll in another? 'The New Statesman' is hardly my cup of tea either, but the article included the details of the original poll to back up the allegation, so irrespective of tone, it was one of these fact based articles designed to actually impart information, that you claim to be looking for. edit - If you are looking for as non partisan as I can find, a magazine website for people working in the consumer research industry has taken note of the Telegraph's bullshit - https://www.research-live.com/article/news/telegraph-brexit-comres-poll-provokes-criticism/id/5057702 https://www.research-live.com/article/news/telegraph-brexit-... >Ben Page, chief executive of Ipsos Mori, tweeted: "Telegraph reporting taking the piss by ignoring "don't knows" to present an apparent majority."

SuddsMcDuff 7y ago
Thanks, but I didn't need convincing that the Telegraphs article was bullshit. I already knew that and acknowledged them as a "garbage publication" in my first post. The link you posted is a far better example of journalism imo. I wonder how many views they get compared to the usual clickbait?
- inflatableDodo 7y ago
  >Thanks, but I didn't need convincing that the Telegraphs article was bullshit. I already knew that and acknowledged them as a "garbage publication" in my first post. The issue is, that you are showing more discernment than other media, such as the BBC, which have gone on to repeat the claim by the Telegraph, without pointing out that is bullshit. And so lies quickly become 'common knowledge' by a large swathe of the population, especially if they are not called out. And if you go back through, you can see that I posted the article in response to the lie being presented as common knowledge. I wasn't trying to convince you that the Telegraph's article was bullshit. I was pointing it out to someone else, who had already erred in taking the rag at face value. You may dislike the source I used to do this, or other things they write, but surely you support the calling out of a lie, especially one that has already made the way into general discourse as an accepted fact?

SuddsMcDuff 7y ago

Thanks, but I didn't need convincing that the Telegraphs article was bullshit. I already knew that and acknowledged them as a "garbage publication" in my first post. The link you posted is a far better example of journalism imo. I wonder how many views they get compared to the usual clickbait?

inflatableDodo 7y ago
>Thanks, but I didn't need convincing that the Telegraphs article was bullshit. I already knew that and acknowledged them as a "garbage publication" in my first post. The issue is, that you are showing more discernment than other media, such as the BBC, which have gone on to repeat the claim by the Telegraph, without pointing out that is bullshit. And so lies quickly become 'common knowledge' by a large swathe of the population, especially if they are not called out. And if you go back through, you can see that I posted the article in response to the lie being presented as common knowledge. I wasn't trying to convince you that the Telegraph's article was bullshit. I was pointing it out to someone else, who had already erred in taking the rag at face value. You may dislike the source I used to do this, or other things they write, but surely you support the calling out of a lie, especially one that has already made the way into general discourse as an accepted fact?