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What is he resolution like? Is it as good as Google's aerial imagery that they show with their maps? (or Bing's)

dougmwne 7y ago
No way, not even close. At this point Google is doing overhead lidar flights to get incredibly details 3d maps. The Planet imagry is like going back several decades in satellite tech. But on the other hand, it's daily.
- gjstein 7y ago
  Do you have a source for "overhead LIDAR flights"? I was under the impression that data was coming almost exclusively from their StreetView cars (with perhaps a few companies that provide helicopter-based data from time to time). True enough though that Google has a staggering amount of data about the earth.
  - dougmwne 7y ago
    My apologies. I remembered incorrectly. The aerial flights use computer vision to extract depth maps. While aerial LIDAR is used in GIS, I could not find LIDAR mentioned connected with Google's aerial imagery. https://blog.google/products/earth/google-earths-incredible-3d-imagery-explained/ https://blog.google/products/earth/google-earths-incredible-...
  - thejj100100 7y ago
    Yeah we had a motorhome outside our house and I looked at the 3D map and it showed even though street view car hasn’t visited since 2013. A few months later it updated and showed without the motorhome yet gain without streetview car.
- RosanaAnaDana 7y ago
  Google imagery is a wide range of 10-100cm imagery. I believe (top of my head) that the planet data is natively 25 centimeters (7-8 band?).
  - jofer 7y ago
    Planet global imagery is 4 band sampled at ~4m (oversampled to 3.0m). Skysats (Planet's high-res satellites) are 0.8m, but image only small areas. (Numbers are based on https://assets.planet.com/docs/combined-imagery-product-spec-final-august-2019.pdf https://assets.planet.com/docs/combined-imagery-product-spec...) Nothing is global at high resolution for anyone. Google's imagery is only high res at locations people are likely to look at. High resolution satellites have a very narrow field of view. You can't image a large area with them. Ditto for aerial. There simply isn't 1m or better imagery globally, let alone 100cm.
    - branchan 7y ago
      I don't think that has anything to do with field of view. It's just that higher res = higher cost so they can't afford to have high res global coverage at LEO.
      - jofer 7y ago
        It really does have a lot do do with field of view. High res satellites fundamentally can't image a very large area (that's how a telescope works). They also usually can't image continuously. (High res means you can't image at the rate you're moving without significant SNR drawbacks - you have to stay pointed the target so that you have a long enough exposure time. You can get around this to some degree, but either way, high-res sats are designed for bursts of targeted imaging.) You need _way_ more high-res sats than are currently in operation to image the entire land surface of the planet even yearly. So, yes, higher cost, but probably beyond what a company like google could pay. (Think trillions, not billions)
        Bedon292 7y ago
        To emphasize on this: WorldView 4, which has ~31cm pan imagery came to a cost of about $850M. And is the size of a school bus. Vs the significantly smaller and less expensive stalites Planet uses. And unfortunately that stallite had a failur and only was usable for a bit over 2 years. High res satellites are really hard still.
joshvm 7y ago
Both Bing and Google use aerial imagery with centimetre-scale resolution (certainly 25cm). PlanetScope is 3m I think, the totally free stuff like Sentinel 2 is 10m (5 day revisit). The best commercial imaging satellites are <0.5m. Below that it's simpler to use aircraft.
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  3, 5, and 0.72 meter resolution [0] [0] https://www.planet.com/products/planet-imagery/ https://www.planet.com/products/planet-imagery/
  - RosanaAnaDana 7y ago
    I'm pretty sure they've got a 25 cm offering as well.

No way, not even close. At this point Google is doing overhead lidar flights to get incredibly details 3d maps. The Planet imagry is like going back several decades in satellite tech. But on the other hand, it's daily.

gjstein 7y ago
Do you have a source for "overhead LIDAR flights"? I was under the impression that data was coming almost exclusively from their StreetView cars (with perhaps a few companies that provide helicopter-based data from time to time). True enough though that Google has a staggering amount of data about the earth.
- dougmwne 7y ago
  My apologies. I remembered incorrectly. The aerial flights use computer vision to extract depth maps. While aerial LIDAR is used in GIS, I could not find LIDAR mentioned connected with Google's aerial imagery. https://blog.google/products/earth/google-earths-incredible-3d-imagery-explained/ https://blog.google/products/earth/google-earths-incredible-...
- thejj100100 7y ago
  Yeah we had a motorhome outside our house and I looked at the 3D map and it showed even though street view car hasn’t visited since 2013. A few months later it updated and showed without the motorhome yet gain without streetview car.
RosanaAnaDana 7y ago
Google imagery is a wide range of 10-100cm imagery. I believe (top of my head) that the planet data is natively 25 centimeters (7-8 band?).
- jofer 7y ago
  Planet global imagery is 4 band sampled at ~4m (oversampled to 3.0m). Skysats (Planet's high-res satellites) are 0.8m, but image only small areas. (Numbers are based on https://assets.planet.com/docs/combined-imagery-product-spec-final-august-2019.pdf https://assets.planet.com/docs/combined-imagery-product-spec...) Nothing is global at high resolution for anyone. Google's imagery is only high res at locations people are likely to look at. High resolution satellites have a very narrow field of view. You can't image a large area with them. Ditto for aerial. There simply isn't 1m or better imagery globally, let alone 100cm.
  - branchan 7y ago
    I don't think that has anything to do with field of view. It's just that higher res = higher cost so they can't afford to have high res global coverage at LEO.
    - jofer 7y ago
      It really does have a lot do do with field of view. High res satellites fundamentally can't image a very large area (that's how a telescope works). They also usually can't image continuously. (High res means you can't image at the rate you're moving without significant SNR drawbacks - you have to stay pointed the target so that you have a long enough exposure time. You can get around this to some degree, but either way, high-res sats are designed for bursts of targeted imaging.) You need _way_ more high-res sats than are currently in operation to image the entire land surface of the planet even yearly. So, yes, higher cost, but probably beyond what a company like google could pay. (Think trillions, not billions)
      - Bedon292 7y ago
        To emphasize on this: WorldView 4, which has ~31cm pan imagery came to a cost of about $850M. And is the size of a school bus. Vs the significantly smaller and less expensive stalites Planet uses. And unfortunately that stallite had a failur and only was usable for a bit over 2 years. High res satellites are really hard still.

joshvm 7y ago

Both Bing and Google use aerial imagery with centimetre-scale resolution (certainly 25cm). PlanetScope is 3m I think, the totally free stuff like Sentinel 2 is 10m (5 day revisit). The best commercial imaging satellites are <0.5m. Below that it's simpler to use aircraft.

stronglikedan 7y ago
3, 5, and 0.72 meter resolution [0] [0] https://www.planet.com/products/planet-imagery/ https://www.planet.com/products/planet-imagery/
- RosanaAnaDana 7y ago
  I'm pretty sure they've got a 25 cm offering as well.