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I’m an ordinary HK resident, software engineer, living in Kowloon and work in HK island. I see the protesters breaking laws, damaging properties, obstructing tr

I’m an ordinary HK resident, software engineer, living in Kowloon and work in HK island. I see the protesters breaking laws, damaging properties, obstructing traffic, causing the entire society to grind to halt. Their actions are not unlike mobs and they disrupt social order almost everywhere. I don’t know under what circumstances mainland military can get involved, but I hope when they do, law and order can be restored in my city.

Epskampie 7y ago
I don’t want to doubt your words without reason, but can you offer any proof that you are who you say, and not someone paid to sway opinions?
- billfruit 7y ago
  In the other hand most of the reporting in the west is obviously giving the violence perpetrated by the protestors a free pass. From what I gather the protestors can no longer be called nonviolent.
- BlueonMount 7y ago
  You can ask me things someone like me is supposed to know, see if I pass your Turing test.
  - Epskampie 7y ago
    I’ve been thinking, but it’s hard for me to come up with questions like that, not being from China/HK myself. Let me ask you this: do you feel the protestors are trying to protect your freedoms, or give you new ones?
bouncycastle 7y ago
So what are you going to do, when one day you wake up and find that wikipedia.org is blocked, as many other sites, when Hong Kong comes under the Great Firewall of China? It will be definitely too late to protest about it then.
- BlueonMount 7y ago
  I will likely protest if HK Internet freedom is eroded, but to a much less extent than today when my real-life freedom is eroded. On that Monday when protesters flooded the subway, I was unable to get to work on time. I had to work late, and learned my lesson to return home by taxi, only to find that roads near my home were blockaded by protesters. I dare not express anti-protester views when I’m among group of radical protesters. I walked with them once, several weeks ago, when the protests just started and I thought they might have some valid points. I found most of them holding extremely biased and unrealistic views about HK or China, and can’t be reasoned with. I never walked with them again.
  - bouncycastle 7y ago
    Again, when internet freedom gets eroded, it will be too late to protest. On the street or even online. Authorities will have control over everything, the internet firewall will be just the icing on the cake. Also, curious, what are some of the biases and unrealistic views?
fouric 7y ago
That's what the local police is for. Where are they? What are they doing? The PRC army marching in without the HK government explicitly and publicly calling for assistance seems like its much more likely to be the PRC taking hostile action than benevolently lending assistance.

Epskampie 7y ago

I don’t want to doubt your words without reason, but can you offer any proof that you are who you say, and not someone paid to sway opinions?

billfruit 7y ago
In the other hand most of the reporting in the west is obviously giving the violence perpetrated by the protestors a free pass. From what I gather the protestors can no longer be called nonviolent.
BlueonMount 7y ago
You can ask me things someone like me is supposed to know, see if I pass your Turing test.
- Epskampie 7y ago
  I’ve been thinking, but it’s hard for me to come up with questions like that, not being from China/HK myself. Let me ask you this: do you feel the protestors are trying to protect your freedoms, or give you new ones?

bouncycastle 7y ago

So what are you going to do, when one day you wake up and find that wikipedia.org is blocked, as many other sites, when Hong Kong comes under the Great Firewall of China? It will be definitely too late to protest about it then.

BlueonMount 7y ago
I will likely protest if HK Internet freedom is eroded, but to a much less extent than today when my real-life freedom is eroded. On that Monday when protesters flooded the subway, I was unable to get to work on time. I had to work late, and learned my lesson to return home by taxi, only to find that roads near my home were blockaded by protesters. I dare not express anti-protester views when I’m among group of radical protesters. I walked with them once, several weeks ago, when the protests just started and I thought they might have some valid points. I found most of them holding extremely biased and unrealistic views about HK or China, and can’t be reasoned with. I never walked with them again.
- bouncycastle 7y ago
  Again, when internet freedom gets eroded, it will be too late to protest. On the street or even online. Authorities will have control over everything, the internet firewall will be just the icing on the cake. Also, curious, what are some of the biases and unrealistic views?

fouric 7y ago

That's what the local police is for. Where are they? What are they doing? The PRC army marching in without the HK government explicitly and publicly calling for assistance seems like its much more likely to be the PRC taking hostile action than benevolently lending assistance.