>Being consistent with terminology is sadly underrated. These are extremely complicated topics, and I doubt if there are two people in the world that understan

>Being consistent with terminology is sadly underrated. These are extremely complicated topics, and I doubt if there are two people in the world that understand them exactly in the same way. I understand the desire to have a dependable way to talk about them, but it just doesn't exist. The only way to make progress with other people when talking about these issues is to listen and ask questions - not to depend on the fact that you know some dictionary definition of a word. And really, that's not limited to these topics, but is basically true of all communication. I know that there good explanations for saying that there is a difference between 'misandry' and 'toxic masculinity', and focusing on trying to force a certain terminology would completely miss the actual point of the discussion.