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These are fake news to foment Hong Kong protestors by conflating facts. I hope such fake news do not become part of HN. You are absolutely right Hong Kong cann

These are fake news to foment Hong Kong protestors by conflating facts. I hope such fake news do not become part of HN. You are absolutely right Hong Kong cannot even provide proper shelter or health system or good education to more than 40% of its people, who live in a space smaller than prison cell. All these protests are due to this simmering discontent. I do not think living in a prison cell size apartment and then being hold hostage to mortgage for life working for 14 rich billionaires of the city is ahead of it's time. Hong Kong is just paying price of its own reliance on get rich quick through property and closed China. First one destroyed innovation and second one is no longer true. Today Chinese cities are way ahead in innovation and technology, they also have a property bubble but not as severe as Hong Kong. Hope they learn lesson from Hong Kong. When it suited Hong Kong they asked China to reinterpret basic law for their own benefit against basic human rights separating spouses and kids and they still do it with impunity and all people in Hong Kong are happy with that reinterpretation. You cross line once you cannot go back, this is what Hong Kong asked for and got it. Moreover Hong Kong is a Chinese territory so everything applicable in China apply except few exception as defined in basic law.

semi-extrinsic 7y ago
If what you say is true, about simmering discontent in HK due to conditions worse than in China. Why don't the HK people just move to China? Are there any rules against that? If not, why are they staying in HK?
- dragonsh 7y ago
  Let me clear one thing people in Hong Kong are in China. Hong Kong is China with few exceptions of basic law. For your question moving between cities anywhere is hard. Moreover most population in Hong Kong is not that well educated to get better paying jobs as locals have better university education and good English knowledge in tier 1 cities. People live in Hong Kong as they don't have a choice or skills or resources. Most Hong Kong people with skills or resources are already either in China or other parts of the world.
  - Zenbit_UX 7y ago
    It's been almost 4 weeks of regular HN posting since you've made a comment that wasn't politically charged or that mentions China. What gives, this doesn't seem like a normal account.
    - dragonsh 7y ago
      The whole comment mentions China. I believe this is another one of those fake news campaign running across Hong Kong as mentioned in news. HN is not fake news medium but is being made to generate fake news with conflated facts. Been on HN since it's birth, not fake accounts like yours or people downvoting critical comments with facts. Hopefully some moderator on HN reviews these comments for facts not conflated facts.
      - aldoushuxley001 7y ago
        I like how this fake/troll account accuses its parent comment of being a fake when called out. It’s the proverbial ‘no u’. I can’t help but read this as China about to do some terrible things to Hong Kong and pre emptively launching their online troll army to try and whitewash what’s about to go down.
        Zenbit_UX 7y ago
        I was suspicious of the same when calling out the parent, although the account is quite old and has posted about other things. It's possible it has been compromised or was constructed from the beginning to seem legitimate and recently "activated" to pre-empt and soften something horrible that may be about to happen. My comment is now greyed out even though I tried to be as respectful as possible when asking them about their recent posting habits. However their hostile reaction to my inquiry further adds to their suspicion.
        dang 7y ago
        Your comment was downvoted by users who haven't posted in this thread, probably because groundless speculating about whether another account was "compromised or was constructed from the beginning to seem legitimate" is a soft form of the insinuation the site guidelines ask you not to do here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. I very much appreciate the charitability in your first paragraph, but that later part is unfortunately still poison.
me_me_me 7y ago
+10c
fouric 7y ago
Where is your evidence to back up your assertion that the linked Twitter post is "fake news"?

semi-extrinsic 7y ago

If what you say is true, about simmering discontent in HK due to conditions worse than in China. Why don't the HK people just move to China? Are there any rules against that? If not, why are they staying in HK?

dragonsh 7y ago
Let me clear one thing people in Hong Kong are in China. Hong Kong is China with few exceptions of basic law. For your question moving between cities anywhere is hard. Moreover most population in Hong Kong is not that well educated to get better paying jobs as locals have better university education and good English knowledge in tier 1 cities. People live in Hong Kong as they don't have a choice or skills or resources. Most Hong Kong people with skills or resources are already either in China or other parts of the world.
- Zenbit_UX 7y ago
  It's been almost 4 weeks of regular HN posting since you've made a comment that wasn't politically charged or that mentions China. What gives, this doesn't seem like a normal account.
  - dragonsh 7y ago
    The whole comment mentions China. I believe this is another one of those fake news campaign running across Hong Kong as mentioned in news. HN is not fake news medium but is being made to generate fake news with conflated facts. Been on HN since it's birth, not fake accounts like yours or people downvoting critical comments with facts. Hopefully some moderator on HN reviews these comments for facts not conflated facts.
    - aldoushuxley001 7y ago
      I like how this fake/troll account accuses its parent comment of being a fake when called out. It’s the proverbial ‘no u’. I can’t help but read this as China about to do some terrible things to Hong Kong and pre emptively launching their online troll army to try and whitewash what’s about to go down.
      - Zenbit_UX 7y ago
        I was suspicious of the same when calling out the parent, although the account is quite old and has posted about other things. It's possible it has been compromised or was constructed from the beginning to seem legitimate and recently "activated" to pre-empt and soften something horrible that may be about to happen. My comment is now greyed out even though I tried to be as respectful as possible when asking them about their recent posting habits. However their hostile reaction to my inquiry further adds to their suspicion.
        dang 7y ago
        Your comment was downvoted by users who haven't posted in this thread, probably because groundless speculating about whether another account was "compromised or was constructed from the beginning to seem legitimate" is a soft form of the insinuation the site guidelines ask you not to do here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. I very much appreciate the charitability in your first paragraph, but that later part is unfortunately still poison.

me_me_me 7y ago

+10c

fouric 7y ago

Where is your evidence to back up your assertion that the linked Twitter post is "fake news"?