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If that is the only characteristic of Jesus that comes to your mind, then you have a lot more to learn about him. If the state today was based strictly on reli
by Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
If that is the only characteristic of Jesus that comes to your mind, then you have a lot more to learn about him.
If the state today was based strictly on religion and someone would come in and say "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's.", implying the introduction of the separation of the church and the state, you wouldn't call this man sane and a good influence?
- benj111 7y agoI didn't say anything about whether he was a good influence. The whole son if god thing just doesn't sit well with being hypersane. And being the son of God is kind of the 'characteristic' of Jesus, it isn't really something you can lay to one side.
- Erlich_Bachman 7y agoYou do understand that at the time that he said it the beliefs of people living at that time functioned differently and that claim was more relatable to people than it would be now? And if you would be talking to the people at that time you would need to use their terms, their language, and operate within their belief systems? (Also considering the question of whether Jesus actually said those words, or if that notion is just the interpretation of some people writing down the records, of what he was saying at the time.)
- benj111 7y ago"the beliefs of people living at that time functioned differently" What are you suggesting would be a suitable modern day analogue? If other people are claiming that he's the son of god, rather than he himself, doesn't that also throw the question of hypersanity into question. If you were to claim that I were the son of God, would that not colour everything else you wrote about me? You are at best not a neutral witness.
- andrepd 7y agoIt is absolutely a central dogma of Christianity, that Jesus is the son of God, if you believe in the Nicene creed.