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I do. Something like Hotel California that invokes a vivid imagery in one's mind seems unthinkable today. I don't know whether this affects the imagination or l

by emsy 7y ago

I do. Something like Hotel California that invokes a vivid imagery in one's mind seems unthinkable today. I don't know whether this affects the imagination or lingual abilities of the listeners, but it certainly can not produce the same emotions.

paulcole 7y ago
I honestly don’t know whether you’re praising or criticizing Hotel California. • https://www.laweekly.com/the-eagles-hotel-california-why-this-song-sucks/ https://www.laweekly.com/the-eagles-hotel-california-why-thi... • https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/lets-talk-about-the-eagles-great-or-terrible.html https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/lets-talk-abo...
- emsy 7y ago
  Think what you want about the song, but the lyrics are descriptive yet metaphorical. I made this example because I assumed everyone is familiar with it. The point is: the lyrics don't just consist of "I did this, I did that, yeah yeah yeah".
  - goto11 7y ago
    Are you saying no recent music contains "descriptive yet metaphorical" lyrics?
    - emsy 7y ago
      No, but it hardly exists in the mainstream and most indie music I've heard is mainly ambience stuff.
      - goto11 7y ago
        The bottom line is that older music seem better because time is a filter - we remember the good stuff. People have always complained that "music nowadays" is crap.
        kazinator 7y ago
        There is a hypothesis that older music seems better because it is cherry picked, and is being unfairly compared against a random selection of new music. That hypothesis is, unfortunately, starkly false. Music nowadays really is crap; time is not helping it. If we use our 20/20 hindsight and pick the best music of, say, the past 50 years, it will be heavily weighted toward the first 20 of those years. Thirty years ago, sure, I thought that a lot of "music nowadays" was crap; but, unlike today, I also thought that a good deal of it wasn't.
        goto11 7y ago
        > That hypothesis is, unfortunately, starkly false. OK...why do you think is it false? That you don't care about contemporary music doesn't really disprove it.

by emsy 7y ago

paulcole 7y ago

I honestly don’t know whether you’re praising or criticizing Hotel California. • https://www.laweekly.com/the-eagles-hotel-california-why-this-song-sucks/ https://www.laweekly.com/the-eagles-hotel-california-why-thi... • https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/lets-talk-about-the-eagles-great-or-terrible.html https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/lets-talk-abo...

emsy 7y ago
Think what you want about the song, but the lyrics are descriptive yet metaphorical. I made this example because I assumed everyone is familiar with it. The point is: the lyrics don't just consist of "I did this, I did that, yeah yeah yeah".
- goto11 7y ago
  Are you saying no recent music contains "descriptive yet metaphorical" lyrics?
  - emsy 7y ago
    No, but it hardly exists in the mainstream and most indie music I've heard is mainly ambience stuff.
    - goto11 7y ago
      The bottom line is that older music seem better because time is a filter - we remember the good stuff. People have always complained that "music nowadays" is crap.
      - kazinator 7y ago
        There is a hypothesis that older music seems better because it is cherry picked, and is being unfairly compared against a random selection of new music. That hypothesis is, unfortunately, starkly false. Music nowadays really is crap; time is not helping it. If we use our 20/20 hindsight and pick the best music of, say, the past 50 years, it will be heavily weighted toward the first 20 of those years. Thirty years ago, sure, I thought that a lot of "music nowadays" was crap; but, unlike today, I also thought that a good deal of it wasn't.
        goto11 7y ago
        > That hypothesis is, unfortunately, starkly false. OK...why do you think is it false? That you don't care about contemporary music doesn't really disprove it.