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I could never use such an online editor for a couple of reasons: - CSS editing requires a lot of shifting back and forth between preview/css and code completio

by jrnkntl 16y ago

I could never use such an online editor for a couple of reasons: - CSS editing requires a lot of shifting back and forth between preview/css and code completion. A native (mac) app like CSSEdit allows you to open up a 'live preview' that instantly refreshes while you're typing your css. - Access to your local filesystem - Although Cappuccino makes for an 'almost-desktop-like' experience. It's still not the real deal in terms of responsiveness and gui-rendering and you can immediately feel that while using an app like this one. It's a great framework for CRM, TweetDeck-like tools, Inventory systems and the like, but not for a task that requires space, previews and immediate 1:1 response on actions. Could anyone imagine himself using a tool like this?

Luecke 16y ago
You're looking at the limitations of the application itself, not the potential of it, and not the full potential of what Cappuccino is capable of.
- tjarratt 16y ago
  Not to hate on Cappuccino (I'm actually a fan of the framework), but this is the most common defense of web apps that are trying to perform the same functions as native apps. There are some definite strengths here, as well as weaknesses, and it doesn't pay to ignore one while praising the other.
tjarratt 16y ago
a) It's free! b) Their homepage clearly says it's in beta. They probably still have some features they'd like to launch. So far in the 30 minutes I tooled around with it, I picked up a few interesting ideas for a project I'm working on to teach myself more css. In so far as I've already improved my skills, I'd say I can see myself using this tool. Dropping $40 or more for a native app like CSSEdit is probably a good idea if your work will pay for it (or if you can write it off as a tax expense), but I can't easily afford to do that every time a good app comes around. In short, this is a decent app at the current price.
- sp4rki 16y ago
  If you're an aspiring painter, you buy brushes, paper, inks, etc. If you're an aspiring CSS guru, you buy the CSS editor that makes you more productive. For me it's Vim (whoa wait... free!), for some it's Textmate, and for most it's CSS Edit. Also in CSS Edit's defense there is no better visual CSS editor, and there hasn't been one for years and years. If you're into CSS I'd reckon buying CSS Edit is the best way to go. If you're going to be into programming also, I'd say take a look into Vim, Emacs, or Textmate and never look back.
  - Luecke 16y ago
    Why look back when you can look forward?
    - sp4rki 16y ago
      Because regardless of when the tools where created, the important thing is the quality of such tools. I'd rather go with tools that make me productive, while keeping out an eye for the new players, than to be on the cutting edge and lose some of the edge I might get from using 'older tools'
gtdminh 16y ago
agree, this looks like the app to advertise their company. i can create the mac GUI flavor without cappucino suction
ajumell 16y ago
This app supports live preview. You can see it in the live application. It also supports most of the css3 features. And one this is just a beta app for collecting the response of the users. It will be improved according to the response of the users.

by jrnkntl 16y ago

Luecke 16y ago

You're looking at the limitations of the application itself, not the potential of it, and not the full potential of what Cappuccino is capable of.

tjarratt 16y ago
Not to hate on Cappuccino (I'm actually a fan of the framework), but this is the most common defense of web apps that are trying to perform the same functions as native apps. There are some definite strengths here, as well as weaknesses, and it doesn't pay to ignore one while praising the other.

tjarratt 16y ago

a) It's free! b) Their homepage clearly says it's in beta. They probably still have some features they'd like to launch. So far in the 30 minutes I tooled around with it, I picked up a few interesting ideas for a project I'm working on to teach myself more css. In so far as I've already improved my skills, I'd say I can see myself using this tool. Dropping $40 or more for a native app like CSSEdit is probably a good idea if your work will pay for it (or if you can write it off as a tax expense), but I can't easily afford to do that every time a good app comes around. In short, this is a decent app at the current price.

sp4rki 16y ago
If you're an aspiring painter, you buy brushes, paper, inks, etc. If you're an aspiring CSS guru, you buy the CSS editor that makes you more productive. For me it's Vim (whoa wait... free!), for some it's Textmate, and for most it's CSS Edit. Also in CSS Edit's defense there is no better visual CSS editor, and there hasn't been one for years and years. If you're into CSS I'd reckon buying CSS Edit is the best way to go. If you're going to be into programming also, I'd say take a look into Vim, Emacs, or Textmate and never look back.
- Luecke 16y ago
  Why look back when you can look forward?
  - sp4rki 16y ago
    Because regardless of when the tools where created, the important thing is the quality of such tools. I'd rather go with tools that make me productive, while keeping out an eye for the new players, than to be on the cutting edge and lose some of the edge I might get from using 'older tools'

gtdminh 16y ago

agree, this looks like the app to advertise their company. i can create the mac GUI flavor without cappucino suction

ajumell 16y ago

This app supports live preview. You can see it in the live application. It also supports most of the css3 features. And one this is just a beta app for collecting the response of the users. It will be improved according to the response of the users.