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>> 16 weeks of paid paternity leave - which was the policy at Reddit I joined a company a couple months ago but prior to accepting, I asked the CEO what their

>> 16 weeks of paid paternity leave - which was the policy at Reddit I joined a company a couple months ago but prior to accepting, I asked the CEO what their paternity policy was because I disclosed we are expecting in December. He responded that they have a "wonderful" policy so I accepted. After starting, HR provided me with the employee handbook but there was no mention of maternity or paternity leave. I asked where it was and HR stated the company "does not have a maternity or paternity policy" and said my accrued PTO of 1-week by the time December hits should suffice. I just want to jump ship now. Update: I am in California

untog 7y ago
I don't know what state you're in, but both NY and CA have paid family leave laws on the books that entitle you to at least six weeks off. I don't know the full details, but you should seriously look into it. And don't write off getting a new job. I started a new job a few months before my child was born, I was told that if I quit my job within the first year then I would have to refund the company for the parental leave I was given so soon in my time with them. I happily accepted that condition.
- hbcondo714 7y ago
  Thank you for the quick reply; good to know others have experienced this. I'm in CA & my wife will be submitting her PFL claim in the coming weeks so I'll be doing the research in parallel with her, probably starting here: https://www.edd.ca.gov/Disability/PFL_Fathers.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/Disability/PFL_Fathers.htm
  - x0x0 7y ago
    Just know the cap is pretty low -- like $1200-ish/week iirc. Echoing everyone else: a ceo who lies to get someone in the door? That person is going to fuck you (again) at the first available opportunity.
    - scruple 7y ago
      The cap is $1,232/week. I just ended my PFL.
_jal 7y ago
Completely aside from how truly awful that is, someone who would deceive you to get you in the door will fuck you again the minute it is in his interest to do so. Also, that seems like a very short-term strategy to be taking with hiring. He may not have a long-term strategy for the company. I would suggest you jump as soon as you're able.
rahimnathwani 7y ago
If you ask a question that can be easily answered with a specific/quantitative answer, usually the answerer knows you're looking for a specific answer. When someone answers with a generality, then beware because of: - motives - interpersonal differences in the mapping between words and numbers Let's say you're thinking about joining an expensive coding bootcamp. You ask about the chance of you getting an engineering job earning more than $100k after finishing. Even if they're not trying to mislead you, they might answer in a general sense in order not to be pinned down. So they tell you that you have a 'very good chance'. To you, 'very good chance' might mean 80%, because you're thinking about the high price of the programme. To them, 'very good chance' might mean 20%, because they're basing it on the excellent uplift over the 0% chance you have when entering the programme. And some people just like to avoid conflict and tell people what they want to hear :(
cwkoss 7y ago
Notify HR of your desired paternity period and tell them it was offered by the CEO. If they say anything but yes, forward their response to the CEO and ask about why HR is unaware of the "wonderful" paternity policy offered to you in the interview. Keep good records. If they fire you over this, talk to an employment lawyer.

untog 7y ago

I don't know what state you're in, but both NY and CA have paid family leave laws on the books that entitle you to at least six weeks off. I don't know the full details, but you should seriously look into it. And don't write off getting a new job. I started a new job a few months before my child was born, I was told that if I quit my job within the first year then I would have to refund the company for the parental leave I was given so soon in my time with them. I happily accepted that condition.

hbcondo714 7y ago
Thank you for the quick reply; good to know others have experienced this. I'm in CA & my wife will be submitting her PFL claim in the coming weeks so I'll be doing the research in parallel with her, probably starting here: https://www.edd.ca.gov/Disability/PFL_Fathers.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/Disability/PFL_Fathers.htm
- x0x0 7y ago
  Just know the cap is pretty low -- like $1200-ish/week iirc. Echoing everyone else: a ceo who lies to get someone in the door? That person is going to fuck you (again) at the first available opportunity.
  - scruple 7y ago
    The cap is $1,232/week. I just ended my PFL.

_jal 7y ago

Completely aside from how truly awful that is, someone who would deceive you to get you in the door will fuck you again the minute it is in his interest to do so. Also, that seems like a very short-term strategy to be taking with hiring. He may not have a long-term strategy for the company. I would suggest you jump as soon as you're able.

rahimnathwani 7y ago

If you ask a question that can be easily answered with a specific/quantitative answer, usually the answerer knows you're looking for a specific answer. When someone answers with a generality, then beware because of: - motives - interpersonal differences in the mapping between words and numbers Let's say you're thinking about joining an expensive coding bootcamp. You ask about the chance of you getting an engineering job earning more than $100k after finishing. Even if they're not trying to mislead you, they might answer in a general sense in order not to be pinned down. So they tell you that you have a 'very good chance'. To you, 'very good chance' might mean 80%, because you're thinking about the high price of the programme. To them, 'very good chance' might mean 20%, because they're basing it on the excellent uplift over the 0% chance you have when entering the programme. And some people just like to avoid conflict and tell people what they want to hear :(

cwkoss 7y ago

Notify HR of your desired paternity period and tell them it was offered by the CEO. If they say anything but yes, forward their response to the CEO and ask about why HR is unaware of the "wonderful" paternity policy offered to you in the interview. Keep good records. If they fire you over this, talk to an employment lawyer.