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I've always sort of suspected there might be a 'don't shit where you eat' component to it. If you're just being a dick by screwing with people for fun, not pro

I've always sort of suspected there might be a 'don't shit where you eat' component to it. If you're just being a dick by screwing with people for fun, not profit, then maybe you screw with the windows users instead of your fellow linux users. Maybe that's giving them too much credit though.

pfundstein 7y ago
Most malware code I've seen is terribly written and barely works. Hobbyist malware programmers use Windows and write for Windows for the simple reason that it's all they know. Some skiddies use Kali Linux but only because they managed to follow step-by-step instructions on YouTube without which they're lost.
- yesenadam 7y ago
  Maybe if it's 'good' you don't see it? Like we only hear about the criminals that get caught...
  - pfundstein 7y ago
    The funny thing is the most advanced malware out there today (that we know of) was created by the US and Israeli governments. [1] https://www.symantec.com/security-center/writeup/2010-071400-3123-99 https://www.symantec.com/security-center/writeup/2010-071400... [2] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2934593/duqu-2-0-kaspersky-israel-itbwcw.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/2934593/duqu-2-0-kaspe...
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- dead_mall 7y ago
  > Most malware code I've seen is terribly written and barely works. Yeaah cause someone is just going to be so kind enough to share their perfect example of what malware code should look like to the rest of the world.. (actually there's an F ton available on Github, quasar, pupyrat, etc) Don't be so naive man. As a hobbyist malware programmer myself, I know that you don't know what you're really talking about other than pointing out skids targeting Windows (cause most available malware/RATs are targeted for windows) and use Kali cause-so-many-yt-tutorials. edit: fwiw, I find it much easier writing malware under *nix cause they come with python and a bunch of dev libs, where as windows I have to dynamically load libraries in sneaky ways. Also implementing rootkits & RunPEs can be pretty damn puzzling -- definitely not that easy as you say
  - pfundstein 7y ago
    > As a hobbyist malware programmer myself, I know that you don't know what you're really talking about Let's see some of your code.
    - kartoffelwaffel 7y ago
      you write malware in Python..?
      - pfundstein 7y ago
        I think you meant to reply to dead_mall

pfundstein 7y ago

Most malware code I've seen is terribly written and barely works. Hobbyist malware programmers use Windows and write for Windows for the simple reason that it's all they know. Some skiddies use Kali Linux but only because they managed to follow step-by-step instructions on YouTube without which they're lost.

yesenadam 7y ago
Maybe if it's 'good' you don't see it? Like we only hear about the criminals that get caught...
- pfundstein 7y ago
  The funny thing is the most advanced malware out there today (that we know of) was created by the US and Israeli governments. [1] https://www.symantec.com/security-center/writeup/2010-071400-3123-99 https://www.symantec.com/security-center/writeup/2010-071400... [2] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2934593/duqu-2-0-kaspersky-israel-itbwcw.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/2934593/duqu-2-0-kaspe...
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dead_mall 7y ago
> Most malware code I've seen is terribly written and barely works. Yeaah cause someone is just going to be so kind enough to share their perfect example of what malware code should look like to the rest of the world.. (actually there's an F ton available on Github, quasar, pupyrat, etc) Don't be so naive man. As a hobbyist malware programmer myself, I know that you don't know what you're really talking about other than pointing out skids targeting Windows (cause most available malware/RATs are targeted for windows) and use Kali cause-so-many-yt-tutorials. edit: fwiw, I find it much easier writing malware under *nix cause they come with python and a bunch of dev libs, where as windows I have to dynamically load libraries in sneaky ways. Also implementing rootkits & RunPEs can be pretty damn puzzling -- definitely not that easy as you say
- pfundstein 7y ago
  > As a hobbyist malware programmer myself, I know that you don't know what you're really talking about Let's see some of your code.
  - kartoffelwaffel 7y ago
    you write malware in Python..?
    - pfundstein 7y ago
      I think you meant to reply to dead_mall