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I think when he says "show up looking presentable", it may be that he needs to be in suits or business casual, preferably unwrinkled. Also, I am exceptionally

by mises 7y ago

I think when he says "show up looking presentable", it may be that he needs to be in suits or business casual, preferably unwrinkled. Also, I am exceptionally disinclined to bike through below-zero weather, snow tires or no (referring to the hypothetical canadian). Let alone Texas summers, which regularly hit 105 this time of year. I don't care if there are showers or not, it's just darn unpleasant to be outside this time of year.

rjbwork 7y ago
Sub-zero weather isn't too bad down to maybe -10C. After that, it's pretty brutal. I do try not to take superfluous trips on my e-bike above maybe 95 though.
- drivers99 7y ago
  Since he's talking in F (e.g. 105), when he says sub-zero, he means -18C or lower. Or did you mean -10F?
  - rjbwork 7y ago
    Ah okay fair enough. I'm from the US, but lately I've been playing a game with temperature set in C, and am used to working in C from talking with a bunch of international people in programming chats. Yeah sub -18C is extremely cold. Definitely not cycling out there. I don't think I've ever seen below 0 Fahrenheit where I live.
    - mises 7y ago
      Not wanting to is a really reasonable position, as it is with 100+ degrees. Lots of parts of America get that cold for a solid chunk of the year, so if people can't take a bicycle, how would you build a system to accommodate that kind of a load spike?
stevesimmons 7y ago
I cycled to work for years in the Netherlands (down to -5C in winter) and Australia (frequenctly 35C+ in summer). The secret in both cases is: (i) keep appropriate clothes at the office; (ii) wear suitable cycling gear (as the Dutch say, there's no such thing as unsuitable weather, only unsuitable clothing); (iii) find a way to shower at work; (iv) be good humored when weather or other mishaps occur...
- halbritt 7y ago
  A German guy told me that was a German expression. Which one of you is right?
  - Phillipharryt 7y ago
    Sounds like Dutch humour and phrasing to me, but I've heard Germans use "There's no such thing as poor weather, only poor preparation"
    - halbritt 7y ago
      I was actually joking. I wouldn't be surprised that the expression is used in many places that experience inclement weather.
    - mlonkibjuyhv 7y ago
      I claim this as the Norwegian "Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlig klær." Seeing as my version is a rhyme, it's obviously the superior one.
- quicklyfrozen 7y ago
  -5C isn't particularly cold. Would you have been out in -20C with gusty winds and drifting snow? How do I get those appropriate clothes to the office, and where do I store them? Can't be all wrinkled -- and these days you may not even have an assigned desk. And I can be good humored, but will my boss be? Really, though, if we consider bikes safe enough for transportation, why can't we have ultralight enclosed EVs?
throw0101a 7y ago
Cycle in with your lycra and then change into your work clothes. I've pedalled in -10C and 35C in Toronto. Showering at work isn't necessary either: sweat is odourless, and the stickiness comes from bacteria. So you can actually shower before cycling to get things clean and you'll be fine the whole day. In some ways we're actually ourselves too much: * https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/550291/beyond-soap-by-dr-sandy-skotnicki-with-christopher-shulgan/9780735233607/ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/550291/beyond-soap-...
- bryanlarsen 7y ago
  Based on my experience dancing, the trick of showering before exercise only works for about 4 hours if you're wearing cotton or wool. Lycra gives you about two. When you're dancing for more than four hours everybody is stinky and exhausted and nobody cares. At the office? Make sure to schedule your meetings in the morning, and definitely avoid supper meetings.
  - throw0101a 7y ago
    1. Cycle in, perhaps working up a sweat. 2. After cooling down a little, change out of potentially stinky commuting clothes into your work clothes. This seems to work for me, and given the characters I work with, they'd let me know if there was a problem without any qualms.

by mises 7y ago

rjbwork 7y ago

Sub-zero weather isn't too bad down to maybe -10C. After that, it's pretty brutal. I do try not to take superfluous trips on my e-bike above maybe 95 though.

drivers99 7y ago
Since he's talking in F (e.g. 105), when he says sub-zero, he means -18C or lower. Or did you mean -10F?
- rjbwork 7y ago
  Ah okay fair enough. I'm from the US, but lately I've been playing a game with temperature set in C, and am used to working in C from talking with a bunch of international people in programming chats. Yeah sub -18C is extremely cold. Definitely not cycling out there. I don't think I've ever seen below 0 Fahrenheit where I live.
  - mises 7y ago
    Not wanting to is a really reasonable position, as it is with 100+ degrees. Lots of parts of America get that cold for a solid chunk of the year, so if people can't take a bicycle, how would you build a system to accommodate that kind of a load spike?

stevesimmons 7y ago

I cycled to work for years in the Netherlands (down to -5C in winter) and Australia (frequenctly 35C+ in summer). The secret in both cases is: (i) keep appropriate clothes at the office; (ii) wear suitable cycling gear (as the Dutch say, there's no such thing as unsuitable weather, only unsuitable clothing); (iii) find a way to shower at work; (iv) be good humored when weather or other mishaps occur...

halbritt 7y ago
A German guy told me that was a German expression. Which one of you is right?
- Phillipharryt 7y ago
  Sounds like Dutch humour and phrasing to me, but I've heard Germans use "There's no such thing as poor weather, only poor preparation"
  - halbritt 7y ago
    I was actually joking. I wouldn't be surprised that the expression is used in many places that experience inclement weather.
  - mlonkibjuyhv 7y ago
    I claim this as the Norwegian "Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlig klær." Seeing as my version is a rhyme, it's obviously the superior one.
quicklyfrozen 7y ago
-5C isn't particularly cold. Would you have been out in -20C with gusty winds and drifting snow? How do I get those appropriate clothes to the office, and where do I store them? Can't be all wrinkled -- and these days you may not even have an assigned desk. And I can be good humored, but will my boss be? Really, though, if we consider bikes safe enough for transportation, why can't we have ultralight enclosed EVs?

throw0101a 7y ago

Cycle in with your lycra and then change into your work clothes. I've pedalled in -10C and 35C in Toronto. Showering at work isn't necessary either: sweat is odourless, and the stickiness comes from bacteria. So you can actually shower before cycling to get things clean and you'll be fine the whole day. In some ways we're actually ourselves too much: * https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/550291/beyond-soap-by-dr-sandy-skotnicki-with-christopher-shulgan/9780735233607/ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/550291/beyond-soap-...

bryanlarsen 7y ago
Based on my experience dancing, the trick of showering before exercise only works for about 4 hours if you're wearing cotton or wool. Lycra gives you about two. When you're dancing for more than four hours everybody is stinky and exhausted and nobody cares. At the office? Make sure to schedule your meetings in the morning, and definitely avoid supper meetings.
- throw0101a 7y ago
  1. Cycle in, perhaps working up a sweat. 2. After cooling down a little, change out of potentially stinky commuting clothes into your work clothes. This seems to work for me, and given the characters I work with, they'd let me know if there was a problem without any qualms.