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Apple may never address any of your concerns. They're continually leaving niche markets: the eMac is dead, their blade server and SANs are dead, WebObjects is a

by sudont 16y ago

Apple may never address any of your concerns. They're continually leaving niche markets: the eMac is dead, their blade server and SANs are dead, WebObjects is a free afterthought for Xcode. Even QuickTime is getting server mainstreamed with HTTP streaming. Apple's specialty is a general-purpose platform. Like a Luxo task light that can fit anywhere from a machine shop to an art gallery. Besides, diffusion from classroom to home never worked. Home to classroom and office, however!

TomOfTTB 16y ago
You're probably right but it's an excellent opportunity for a startup wanting to use Android. I listed a lot of the bad stuff but the advantages were pretty significant. Touch really is a more natural interface. Kids as young as 3 take to a tablet in a way that's almost unbelievable.
- Samuel_Michon 16y ago
  "it's an excellent opportunity for a startup wanting to use Android." That's an interesting sentiment, especially since a lot of the objections you mentioned earlier have nothing to do with the operating system. How will running Android instead of iOS ensure durability and stunning battery life, prevent eye strain, and make it theft-proof?
  - Kylekramer 16y ago
    Battery life is probably impossible to solve, but a startup could potentially make a durable Android-based tablet at a price that reduces the attractiveness of theft. And this may be stretching it, but you could also go with a Pixel Qi screen to combat the eyestrain. Not mention all the other objections can be solved with Android and you are never going to have a prefect machine.
  - TomOfTTB 16y ago
    It's not about the operating system. His point was that Apple doesn't address these types of issues. My counter point to him was that someone with Android could address the issues if Apple didn't. So the issue wasn't the OS it was Apple's willingness and I was responding to him based on the premise he put forth
    - sudont 16y ago
      Actually, I was agreeing with you. Despite the fact that I'm learning Cocoa and I like the iOS platform best, we really need to avoid the pedagogical mindset of teaching the "inevitable" platform, much how many school computer labs only use Windows, since it's what's used in the "real world." Not to mention that Android will allow schools the flexibility to employ custom software, or even a sort of hypercard stack that allows for the teachers to create applications for their students.
      - TomOfTTB 16y ago
        Yeah I knew that. I was just trying to make the point that I wasn't biased against Apple. If you look at Samuel_Michon's comment history you'll see he comes out fiercely in favor of Apple even going so far as to attack pro-Apple people for not being pro-Apple enough. So I was making the point to him that I wasn't trying to push Android.

by sudont 16y ago

TomOfTTB 16y ago

You're probably right but it's an excellent opportunity for a startup wanting to use Android. I listed a lot of the bad stuff but the advantages were pretty significant. Touch really is a more natural interface. Kids as young as 3 take to a tablet in a way that's almost unbelievable.

Samuel_Michon 16y ago
"it's an excellent opportunity for a startup wanting to use Android." That's an interesting sentiment, especially since a lot of the objections you mentioned earlier have nothing to do with the operating system. How will running Android instead of iOS ensure durability and stunning battery life, prevent eye strain, and make it theft-proof?
- Kylekramer 16y ago
  Battery life is probably impossible to solve, but a startup could potentially make a durable Android-based tablet at a price that reduces the attractiveness of theft. And this may be stretching it, but you could also go with a Pixel Qi screen to combat the eyestrain. Not mention all the other objections can be solved with Android and you are never going to have a prefect machine.
- TomOfTTB 16y ago
  It's not about the operating system. His point was that Apple doesn't address these types of issues. My counter point to him was that someone with Android could address the issues if Apple didn't. So the issue wasn't the OS it was Apple's willingness and I was responding to him based on the premise he put forth
  - sudont 16y ago
    Actually, I was agreeing with you. Despite the fact that I'm learning Cocoa and I like the iOS platform best, we really need to avoid the pedagogical mindset of teaching the "inevitable" platform, much how many school computer labs only use Windows, since it's what's used in the "real world." Not to mention that Android will allow schools the flexibility to employ custom software, or even a sort of hypercard stack that allows for the teachers to create applications for their students.
    - TomOfTTB 16y ago
      Yeah I knew that. I was just trying to make the point that I wasn't biased against Apple. If you look at Samuel_Michon's comment history you'll see he comes out fiercely in favor of Apple even going so far as to attack pro-Apple people for not being pro-Apple enough. So I was making the point to him that I wasn't trying to push Android.