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Is this targeted at junior data scientists? Is the intent for them to know that their code is inefficient, unformatted, overly specific, weird ass, and wrong?

• linkerzx 7y ago
  Frankly the issue is more that a lot of them are dreaming of a position that they are not ready for, and want that from the get go. They are generally ill equipped, but do not regard position such as analyst and engineers which would give them the foothold they would need to enter that position after a couple of years. What they have to learn goes far beyond coding and entails getting a sense for data, the business sense that goes with it, an understanding of how to put models, etl code etc.. into production... Most is fairly hard to teach in a classroom and rather requires practical experience in a business context, so I think the issue is more of an expectation issue than an educational issue. Although it is partially exacerbated by programs such as "Msc of DataScience", that makes student believe they would be ready for these positions straight after graduation.
  • imbored 7y ago
    The degree should get you to a point where you can actually learn the job. You hire juniors and give them as much work as they can do with supervision.
    • linkerzx 7y ago
      "The degree should get you to a point where you can actually learn the job." I think the question there is "how fast"? "You hire juniors and give them as much work as they can do with supervision." - Agree to a large extent, the main problem there is that their expectations don't usually match what they are ready for.
• imbored 7y ago
  It's not a shortcoming of the educational system. People need experience to be good at things. Engineers take years after school, doctors take years after school.
  • lunias 7y ago
    I agree that people need experience to become good at anything, but I actually see this as a sort of shortcoming which is attributable to education. i.e. the system will give you the building blocks of success without context and you can fumble around with them once you enter the workforce - learn on the job. I believe that we should be focusing much more on pragmatic application of knowledge through apprenticeship in the later years of school. The goal being to alleviate the feeling that you need to immediately train someone who just got done with 4+ years of training.