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I thought they were talking about the jitney buses run by companies like Spanish Transit from Paterson <-> NYC. They're absolutely vital means of transport whe

by Endy 7y ago

I thought they were talking about the jitney buses run by companies like Spanish Transit from Paterson <-> NYC. They're absolutely vital means of transport when the trains are reliably behind schedule (as they currently almost always are) or when the NJTransit buses aren't running on time because of some unknown issue. I wish they would expand their offerings, because I live and work at two major points of their routes (except that it's different routes) and if they closed the triangle, I'd be able to avoid using Uber or Lyft.

rinchik 7y ago
`vital means of transport` - definitely disagree here, those "buses" are also dangerous (constant harassment) and also no AC in the summer, drivers openly smoke while driving with passengers in those. I would think those vans are a horrible way of commuting and local authorities don't inspect or monitor those at all.
- Endy 7y ago
  Never had a driver who smoked yet. On the other hand, tell me something, how do you get from Paterson or Passaic to NYC or Union City in less than an hour and at an affordable rate? NJTransit is slow whether it's train or bus, and they're at the absolute upper limit of being affordable. When I say they're vital, I absolutely mean it. For those of who have relied on the buses in and out of the City, the NJTransit option simply isn't viable on a daily basis compared to far more reliable and numerous jitneys. Uber & Lyft are simply out of the question on the basis of cost. Oh, and add in the fact that for those of us who live in Jersey and cannot drive, options are limited overall.
  - rinchik 7y ago
    I use NJ transit buses (check 190, practically the same route). Was using those small buses you are talking about and it was a complete nightmare. Agree that it’s not consistent but after a while You get to experience stuff that is just horrendous! Also the fact that decayed commuting services like that are considered vital for some commuters is a sign of how bad of a state NJ infrastructure is in. Those busses are a clear sign of corruption and a symptom of a much larger problem.
    - Endy 7y ago
      I live within three blocks of the 190 & 74 in Passaic, and only need to walk a few minutes to reach either Passaic or Delawanna stations. That should tell you my neighborhood pretty well. I only take the 190 if I'm going specifically to Rutherford or Secaucus. Otherwise, the jitney takes half the time for less money, or about the same time when bound for Paterson. Difference is that they run 4x more often. You're absolutely right on one point, though. NJTransit is a disgusting system; and it needs a real overhaul - the kind that Murphy is afraid to try because he's so focused on trying to shove through his legal pot. Does he think everyone's going to get high and ignore all his failures?
- jessriedel 7y ago
  Do you think the passenger would be willing to pay increased costs for non-smoking drivers and vehicle inspections? I suspect they would only if it was extremely cheap, and that regardless this is of vastly less importance to them compared to the other factors (price, reliability) that often make these vans preferable to the MTA.

by Endy 7y ago

rinchik 7y ago

`vital means of transport` - definitely disagree here, those "buses" are also dangerous (constant harassment) and also no AC in the summer, drivers openly smoke while driving with passengers in those. I would think those vans are a horrible way of commuting and local authorities don't inspect or monitor those at all.

Endy 7y ago
Never had a driver who smoked yet. On the other hand, tell me something, how do you get from Paterson or Passaic to NYC or Union City in less than an hour and at an affordable rate? NJTransit is slow whether it's train or bus, and they're at the absolute upper limit of being affordable. When I say they're vital, I absolutely mean it. For those of who have relied on the buses in and out of the City, the NJTransit option simply isn't viable on a daily basis compared to far more reliable and numerous jitneys. Uber & Lyft are simply out of the question on the basis of cost. Oh, and add in the fact that for those of us who live in Jersey and cannot drive, options are limited overall.
- rinchik 7y ago
  I use NJ transit buses (check 190, practically the same route). Was using those small buses you are talking about and it was a complete nightmare. Agree that it’s not consistent but after a while You get to experience stuff that is just horrendous! Also the fact that decayed commuting services like that are considered vital for some commuters is a sign of how bad of a state NJ infrastructure is in. Those busses are a clear sign of corruption and a symptom of a much larger problem.
  - Endy 7y ago
    I live within three blocks of the 190 & 74 in Passaic, and only need to walk a few minutes to reach either Passaic or Delawanna stations. That should tell you my neighborhood pretty well. I only take the 190 if I'm going specifically to Rutherford or Secaucus. Otherwise, the jitney takes half the time for less money, or about the same time when bound for Paterson. Difference is that they run 4x more often. You're absolutely right on one point, though. NJTransit is a disgusting system; and it needs a real overhaul - the kind that Murphy is afraid to try because he's so focused on trying to shove through his legal pot. Does he think everyone's going to get high and ignore all his failures?
jessriedel 7y ago
Do you think the passenger would be willing to pay increased costs for non-smoking drivers and vehicle inspections? I suspect they would only if it was extremely cheap, and that regardless this is of vastly less importance to them compared to the other factors (price, reliability) that often make these vans preferable to the MTA.