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Discussions should get more civil over time, not less. GP never mentions gender in their post, but in terms of politics, it seems to me that this entire thread
by danShumway 7y ago
Discussions should get more civil over time, not less.
GP never mentions gender in their post, but in terms of politics, it seems to me that this entire thread is a political conversation. It's certainly not technical -- a technical person would not care about whether someone used the term "monster" or "man", since:
a) it changes literally nothing about the technical details of the attack.
b) everyone understands what both terms are referring to.
The only reason why it makes sense for anybody at all to advocate for switching to "monster" or to advocate against switching to "monster" is because they're interested in the politics behind that switch.
From a technical point of view, if using the word "monster" makes some people happy, then why is it a problem for them to do so? My computer isn't going to stop working because of it ;)
If it makes someone feel more accepted, and it isn't causing any confusion, then I'm all for it.
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- mises 7y agoThere is a technical reason. I may know, but Google does not. I look up "Man in the Middle" and get many years worth of useful info. I look up "Monster in the Middle", and here's what I get: one result about a cloudflare project, one bodybuilding.com post, one disney wiki post, and several you tube videos about "HuggleMonsters". After those is this discussion. Does that sound like a really good term to use? This looks like some one at cloud flare got pc and used the term, then this guy got in on it. I see no reason to let some company decide what's proper; I'd rather go for decades of security and development expertise.
- jraph 7y agoIf the expression spreads, search engines will start showing relevant results. If it does not spread, then we are facing a non-issue.
- danShumway 7y agoTo add to this, search engines already need to correlate "MITM" and "Man in the Middle". But we don't see anyone here arguing that the expanded form should be preferred to make searching between those two forms easier. Correlating terms turns out to be a pretty easy problem. It's overlapping terms like "Mongoose (Animal)" and "Mongoose (Database)" that are hard.
- pelasaco 7y agowell what is more accurate? A man in the middle or a monster in the middle? Last computer conference that I visited, there were a lot of Men, some women but no monsters.. The same Pattern i observed in the last 15 years. So I think Man in the Middle is pretty much more accurate.