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hmm. it seems cruise / boat travel is even worse than planes. That only leaves trains, in combination with car and ... horses? There is already a campaign agai
by buboard 7y ago
hmm. it seems cruise / boat travel is even worse than planes. That only leaves trains, in combination with car and ... horses? There is already a campaign against air travel e.g. for conferences, and it will probably become a trend in the next few years. I wonder what is going to fill in the gap that air travel left for aspiring tourists.
There is also the possibility that electric planes will become a thing
There is also the possibility that people will spend half a year working in an exotic place to avoid travelling too much
- lm28469 7y ago> boat travel is even worse than planes. Not all of them, can't do much more eco friendly than sailboats. Besides walking or cycling, but that won't take you across oceans/seas.
- buboard 7y ago> won't take you across oceans/seas yeah bummer. what about balloons?
- icebraining 7y agolm28469 is saying that sailboats do take you across seas/oceans. There are a few cruising sailboats; though they currently use wind only for extra power, I could see them selling "eco" trips where engines are only used for emergencies.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y agoI sadly don't have 80 vacation days.
- notJim 7y agoInteresting, this actually points increasing vacation days as a small part of a reasonable climate policy. If we need to switch to slower transportation methods, it's only fair that we should get more vacation days. If you have an extra couple of days, even in the US a plane trip can become a rail trip.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y agoThat'll be a hard sell - I imagine as we move to more climate friendly policies our ability to produce is going to go down - it'll be hard to convince employers that giving more vacation days and becoming even less efficient with the employees is a good choice. Of course, we've been becoming increasingly more efficient and we're not getting more time off, so you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
- notJim 7y agoBetween the growing labor movement, and more willingness to regulate companies, I'm not sure we need to convince them.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y agoAre either of these actually happening? I see a movement towards a gig economy and side hustles. I don't know if there's actually a move towards workers standing up for their rights. Same goes with regulation - there are definite corners of society who would like that, but those who are in power, who are in power because of the people, clearly don't. Just to be clear, I want these things, I just don't see society turning that way.
- notJim 7y ago
- adyer07 7y agoDon’t forget bicycles! Long distance bike touring is a really fascinating way to experience a place, if you have the time to do it. My rule of thumb is that one hour of driving takes about a day of bicycle touring - so you can get remarkably far in a week or two.
- desas 7y agoA guilty pleasure of mine is reading cycle touring travelogues. I'm really looking forward to trying it.
- adyer07 7y agoHa, that’s how I started! If you’re interested in dipping a toe in, I recommend doing a weekend trip - bike out, camp, and back. It’s a wonderful feeling to escape wherever you are under your own power.
- buboard 7y agoi love cycling but never did a tour like that. That is already a thing though but i doubt it will catch on because of environment concerns. It's not for everyone
- dredmorbius 7y agoRight. Whilst it's not difficult to cycle 100 or even 200 miles in a single day, it's far more pleasurable to keep tour cycling to 40-60 miles, particularly on an extended trip and whilst carrying luggage.