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"He posed with a gun pointed at his face. The man accidentally shot himself" There seemed to be quite a few of these. There is no such thing as accidentally sh

"He posed with a gun pointed at his face. The man accidentally shot himself" There seemed to be quite a few of these. There is no such thing as accidentally shooting yourself. You can only do so through gross negligence (or positive intent). It's incredibly simple and easy to 1) Not point a gun at your face, or anything else you don't want to shoot, 2) check if a gun is loaded as the first thing you do any time you handle one, and 3) Keep your damn booger hook off the bang switch.

ivanbakel 7y ago
>You can only do so through gross negligence Which many people would consider to be "an accident". What's the point of this kind of safer-than-thou pedantry? Believing "accident" is a term reserved for insignificant things is blame-culture mentality, and it has been time and time again been proven wrong. There are big, violent, absent-minded, negligent accidents.
- technothrasher 7y ago
  > What's the point of this kind of safer-than-thou pedantry? Keeping people from getting hurt and killed? There's a grave responsibility one takes on when handling firearms. If you take on that responsibility, you have a duty to protect yourself and others. If you don't want that responsibility, don't handle firearms.
  - ivanbakel 7y ago
    >Keeping people from getting hurt and killed? It doesn't keep people from getting hurt and killed. Gun safety does. Acting as though holding a gun means you cannot make a mistake or have an accident forbids people from being human, but since it denies reality, it changes exactly nothing.
    - technothrasher 7y ago
      Nonsense. There are three very simple gun safety rules. Forgetting any one of them is an accident. Forgetting two of them is a serious wake up call. Forgetting all three of them is not "merely being human"; it is showing reckless disregard for safety, and it is the only time you'll get hurt.
- homonculus1 7y ago
  "Accident" includes events which are uncontrollable, unpredictable, or unpreventable. This is too ambiguous and softens the line of accountability. "Negligence" is insisted upon because it offers no room for excuses and fosters a culture and mindset of handling firearms safely at all times. Reading bad intent into this is unfounded and unnecessary.

ivanbakel 7y ago

>You can only do so through gross negligence Which many people would consider to be "an accident". What's the point of this kind of safer-than-thou pedantry? Believing "accident" is a term reserved for insignificant things is blame-culture mentality, and it has been time and time again been proven wrong. There are big, violent, absent-minded, negligent accidents.

technothrasher 7y ago
> What's the point of this kind of safer-than-thou pedantry? Keeping people from getting hurt and killed? There's a grave responsibility one takes on when handling firearms. If you take on that responsibility, you have a duty to protect yourself and others. If you don't want that responsibility, don't handle firearms.
- ivanbakel 7y ago
  >Keeping people from getting hurt and killed? It doesn't keep people from getting hurt and killed. Gun safety does. Acting as though holding a gun means you cannot make a mistake or have an accident forbids people from being human, but since it denies reality, it changes exactly nothing.
  - technothrasher 7y ago
    Nonsense. There are three very simple gun safety rules. Forgetting any one of them is an accident. Forgetting two of them is a serious wake up call. Forgetting all three of them is not "merely being human"; it is showing reckless disregard for safety, and it is the only time you'll get hurt.
homonculus1 7y ago
"Accident" includes events which are uncontrollable, unpredictable, or unpreventable. This is too ambiguous and softens the line of accountability. "Negligence" is insisted upon because it offers no room for excuses and fosters a culture and mindset of handling firearms safely at all times. Reading bad intent into this is unfounded and unnecessary.