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Is "undermine their position in society and the structures they value" some sort of euphemism for allowing women the same rights and opportunities that we have?

Is "undermine their position in society and the structures they value" some sort of euphemism for allowing women the same rights and opportunities that we have? Because as a man I genuinely see this as a good thing.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
We've gone from a single decent income being enough to provide for one's family to two incomes now being all but required can sure make it look that way. Before the 1970s/90s (depending on where you live) a man was "the" income. That was his role and it gave him something to optimize for. Now he's only bringing in half and that's assuming When everyone else around you gets a promotion it feels like you've been demoted even if you haven't. So what do you do to find meaning? Therein lies the rise of extremist movements, nobody ever made their mark on the world by being rabidly centrist. Edit: Am I being downvoted for being wrong, wrongthink or because my opinion makes people uncomfortable?
- krastanov 7y ago
  > When everyone else around you gets a promotion it feels like you've been demoted even if you haven't. I think a more descriptive / honest version of that statement is: When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
  - ancarda 7y ago
    Interesting take. Do you have any ideas how should society address that feeling of oppression? Edit: fix typo
    - krastanov 7y ago
      That is a fair question. Frustratingly, I think an important part of the solution is actually pampering and providing disproportionate help to the "historically privileged that think the recent equality is oppression against them". After all, empathy is the most important thing, even if the person you are giving it to is particularly bad at showing empathy back (and refuse to acknowledge the structural privileges they have had).

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Is "undermine their position in society and the structures they value" some sort of euphemism for allowing women the same rights and opportunities that we have?

by SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
We've gone from a single decent income being enough to provide for one's family to two incomes now being all but required can sure make it look that way. Before the 1970s/90s (depending on where you live) a man was "the" income. That was his role and it gave him something to optimize for. Now he's only bringing in half and that's assuming When everyone else around you gets a promotion it feels like you've been demoted even if you haven't. So what do you do to find meaning? Therein lies the rise of extremist movements, nobody ever made their mark on the world by being rabidly centrist. Edit: Am I being downvoted for being wrong, wrongthink or because my opinion makes people uncomfortable?
- krastanov 7y ago
  > When everyone else around you gets a promotion it feels like you've been demoted even if you haven't. I think a more descriptive / honest version of that statement is: When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
  - ancarda 7y ago
    Interesting take. Do you have any ideas how should society address that feeling of oppression? Edit: fix typo
    - krastanov 7y ago
      That is a fair question. Frustratingly, I think an important part of the solution is actually pampering and providing disproportionate help to the "historically privileged that think the recent equality is oppression against them". After all, empathy is the most important thing, even if the person you are giving it to is particularly bad at showing empathy back (and refuse to acknowledge the structural privileges they have had).