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I used to really like XFCE and it was my daily driver on my laptop for 6years because it was no compromises on performance type of GUI. Also worked amazing in V

I used to really like XFCE and it was my daily driver on my laptop for 6years because it was no compromises on performance type of GUI. Also worked amazing in VMs if you needed to test something and WSL on windows didn't exist. But then they started working on GTK v3 and things started to fall apart (my experience is only from xubuntu but i think it doesn't matter). Thunar got really buggy, often crashed in random locations and it was painful to use. This one at least got fixed. Then mousepad. It used to be really fast editor but after i switched from old xubuntu to 18.04 it feels extremly sluggish when opening lager document with syntax highlight. E.g. download html of youtube and open it in mousepad, it's unusuable. And then the clipboard issues and large image (screenshot) killed it for me and I had to switch to KDE. It takes ~0.5-1s more to load apps like dolphin compared to thunar but at least once you load them they just work. I still hope I'll be able to come back, the zero animation GUI is appealing to me.

bwat49 7y ago
thunar got buggy/crashy long before the switch to gtk3
- lousken 7y ago
  I remember it was around the time the work started on porting to gtk3, maybe it wasn't tied directly into it but I remember it was xubuntu 16.04 that released really buggy thunar version that shouldn't have been released to LTS. I'd say that was a major oversight that xubuntu team had made. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu
theodre 7y ago
Really curious, this is the first release with GTK3. Is it not? XFCE 4.12 was still with GTk2 (unless you were using XFCE 4.13 which is a development version). I could be wrong. But AFAIK, this is the first XFCE release with GTK3. Was xubuntu using dev version of XFCE which is 4.13?
- lousken 7y ago
  I haven't dig into it that much but I can quote from their blog posts > Many Xfce 4.13 components have been added or updated, providing an updated snapshot of Xfce 4.14 development. [0] https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-04-released/ https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-04-released/ [1] https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-10-released/ https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-10-released/ ...
andreldm 7y ago
Thunar was crashing long before the gtk3 port, hopefully it's much more stable now. The clipboard failing on large chunks of data has been fixed too.
- asark 7y ago
  The file managers for Gnome and KDE are both really crashy for me, too. I don't know which graphical file manager to use in Linux without going back to MC or something. Linux is the only desktop OS I use where application crashes and major glitches (some subsystem of KDE crashing, for example) are still like a once every hour or two occurrence, even when not doing anything especially odd or taxing.
- lousken 7y ago
  > The clipboard failing on large chunks of data has been fixed too. That's awesome, I'll try again with new xubuntu, hopefully there won't be such nasty bug, or do you recommend another distro?
  - andreldm 7y ago
    Besides Xubuntu, Manjaro (or plain Arch) and openSUSE Tumbleweed support Xfce very well.

bwat49 7y ago

thunar got buggy/crashy long before the switch to gtk3

lousken 7y ago
I remember it was around the time the work started on porting to gtk3, maybe it wasn't tied directly into it but I remember it was xubuntu 16.04 that released really buggy thunar version that shouldn't have been released to LTS. I'd say that was a major oversight that xubuntu team had made. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu

theodre 7y ago

Really curious, this is the first release with GTK3. Is it not? XFCE 4.12 was still with GTk2 (unless you were using XFCE 4.13 which is a development version). I could be wrong. But AFAIK, this is the first XFCE release with GTK3. Was xubuntu using dev version of XFCE which is 4.13?

lousken 7y ago
I haven't dig into it that much but I can quote from their blog posts > Many Xfce 4.13 components have been added or updated, providing an updated snapshot of Xfce 4.14 development. [0] https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-04-released/ https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-04-released/ [1] https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-10-released/ https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-10-released/ ...

andreldm 7y ago

Thunar was crashing long before the gtk3 port, hopefully it's much more stable now. The clipboard failing on large chunks of data has been fixed too.

asark 7y ago
The file managers for Gnome and KDE are both really crashy for me, too. I don't know which graphical file manager to use in Linux without going back to MC or something. Linux is the only desktop OS I use where application crashes and major glitches (some subsystem of KDE crashing, for example) are still like a once every hour or two occurrence, even when not doing anything especially odd or taxing.
lousken 7y ago
> The clipboard failing on large chunks of data has been fixed too. That's awesome, I'll try again with new xubuntu, hopefully there won't be such nasty bug, or do you recommend another distro?
- andreldm 7y ago
  Besides Xubuntu, Manjaro (or plain Arch) and openSUSE Tumbleweed support Xfce very well.