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That's an extreme generalization. In most cases these people work, sometimes hard, yet they feel excluded because either their values don't align with the socie
by buboard 7y ago
That's an extreme generalization. In most cases these people work, sometimes hard, yet they feel excluded because either their values don't align with the society they live in, or the society is outight racist. And it's the ones who work (in immigrants receiving welfare, typically the men) who become extremists.
- pferde 7y agoIf their values do not align with the society they live in, then they are not offering something the society wants. I am not saying this as a judgment, but as an objective fact. If the society is racist, that's a different matter altogether, and I already covered that case in my above comment. I do not claim that this "be a person that has something to offer" idea is a panacea to solve everything. But it does (or rather, would) solve many cases of social exclusion. Just look at the despicable (and yes, now I am judging) "Incel" subculture in the USA. Sure, some of them might have genuine mental issues, but there is a lot of loafers and layabouts who prefer to pose as victims instead of doing something positive.
- buboard 7y agoAh yes the Incel link, which i think is totally unproven yet i am sure "pundits" will be sure that it exists. This study is about immigrants in europe, which is better defined, and who are excluded in more specific ways (including celibacy i would guess in some cases). Plus i don't think calling anyone with emotional problems (which are always ugly and always express themselves as ugly) is right. You probably wouldn't do the same if they were women either - in fact lots of women say bad things about men too. Neither is despicable , calling someone despicable is a cop-out and uncharitable.