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The Britain that post Brexit will be in desperate need of a trade deal, will be offered a really really bad one by the US that will never be accepted by those t

The Britain that post Brexit will be in desperate need of a trade deal, will be offered a really really bad one by the US that will never be accepted by those that actually voted for Brexit, so those same people will go shopping around for anyone that can possibly replace the EU and US, at the very least if only to give them leverage against the US? I don't think Britain can afford to be pissing off China right now.

zeristor 7y ago
That’s one way to read it; another might it is not an opportune moment for Brexit.
- benj111 7y ago
  That's what I said, isnt it?
pimmen 7y ago
Roughly half of the UK did not want Brexit at all though and wouldn't be that swell to hear that they have to appease a dictatorship now. I doubt Boris Johnson could pull that off with such a razor thin majority in parliament. However, I do agree that China is an option even though it's an unrealistic one and its reception domestically, if the UK has to do major concessions to get it in place quickly, is probably not going to be warm. But, the UK can't afford to have no options on the table.
- benj111 7y ago
  "Roughly half of the UK did not want Brexit at all though and wouldn't be that swell to hear that they have to appease a dictatorship now" Id count myself in that half, that isnt the half motivated by ideals of sovereignty and control of their own destiny at the expense of all else, plus that half isnt currently in the drivers seat so I kept that half out of the discussion.
goatinaboat 7y ago
I don't think Britain can afford to be pissing off China right now. I’m not sure you understand the Brexit mindset. Everyone knew exiting the EU would be an economic hit, but they believed that some things are more important than just making money and accumulating stuff. A grand gesture in the name of democracy is exactly what a typical Brexiteer would want. Even better that it harks back to the days of Empire, in the case of Hong Kong.
- benj111 7y ago
  If that's a part of the Brexit mindset, there's at least an equal part 'keep the Jonny foreigners out'.
tomohawk 7y ago
Putting the onus on Britain, that somehow Britain will be able to do something to not "piss off" the fascists running China? Wow. The CCP doesn't need an excuse. When they see weakness, they use it. Remaining in the EU doesn't help either, as the EU has long been cowed by China. It's almost like the EU thinks that being a suburb of China is their future.

zeristor 7y ago

That’s one way to read it; another might it is not an opportune moment for Brexit.

benj111 7y ago
That's what I said, isnt it?

pimmen 7y ago

Roughly half of the UK did not want Brexit at all though and wouldn't be that swell to hear that they have to appease a dictatorship now. I doubt Boris Johnson could pull that off with such a razor thin majority in parliament. However, I do agree that China is an option even though it's an unrealistic one and its reception domestically, if the UK has to do major concessions to get it in place quickly, is probably not going to be warm. But, the UK can't afford to have no options on the table.

benj111 7y ago
"Roughly half of the UK did not want Brexit at all though and wouldn't be that swell to hear that they have to appease a dictatorship now" Id count myself in that half, that isnt the half motivated by ideals of sovereignty and control of their own destiny at the expense of all else, plus that half isnt currently in the drivers seat so I kept that half out of the discussion.

goatinaboat 7y ago

I don't think Britain can afford to be pissing off China right now. I’m not sure you understand the Brexit mindset. Everyone knew exiting the EU would be an economic hit, but they believed that some things are more important than just making money and accumulating stuff. A grand gesture in the name of democracy is exactly what a typical Brexiteer would want. Even better that it harks back to the days of Empire, in the case of Hong Kong.

benj111 7y ago
If that's a part of the Brexit mindset, there's at least an equal part 'keep the Jonny foreigners out'.

tomohawk 7y ago

Putting the onus on Britain, that somehow Britain will be able to do something to not "piss off" the fascists running China? Wow. The CCP doesn't need an excuse. When they see weakness, they use it. Remaining in the EU doesn't help either, as the EU has long been cowed by China. It's almost like the EU thinks that being a suburb of China is their future.