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Not only that. The only reason the selected families moved to the better neighborhood is because a team of experts were paid to intervene on their behalf. Unle

Not only that. The only reason the selected families moved to the better neighborhood is because a team of experts were paid to intervene on their behalf. Unless such families make the effort to change their circumstance and save enough to move to the preferable area, programs like this one rob them of their free will. I don't understand why advocates of progressive programs like this seem to always miss this crucial point. Real, lasting change only comes when people make conscious decisions to improve their lives with no external input whatsoever handed to them. Anything else is anti-competitive and subject to regulatory capture.

hellisothers 7y ago
How is regulatory capture related to this?
- jancsika 7y ago
  Think of it as part of a "blues riff" where I noodled around at the end in a peculiar way as a signal that I'm not really a blues player. :)
rory096 7y ago
>The only reason the selected families moved to the better neighborhood is because a team of experts were paid to intervene on their behalf. >Unless such families make the effort to change their circumstance and save enough to move to the preferable area, programs like this one rob them of their free will. This is a bizarre claim. Participants were given advice, not forcibly relocated: >They would also be given information on which neighborhoods promise the most opportunity for their kids, based on the research data. They’d also be assigned “navigators” whose job it was to walk them through the apartment application process, and receive additional financial assistance with down payments if necessary.
em-bee 7y ago
> Real, lasting change only comes when people make conscious decisions to improve their lives with no external input whatsoever handed to them that doesn't sound right. most people want to improve their life. it's not about making the decision, but about knowing what steps to take to achieve it. and why wouldn't someone take help for that? you seem to think that making a conscious decision is all it takes. far from it. in particular, when the steps to achieve it involve time and effort that you don't seem to have time for. i made a conscious decision to increase my income years ago. it wasn't effective until i found partners who helped me get clients (iaw i found a sales person who would work by sharing profit instead of taking a salary), so that i could focus delivering the service.

hellisothers 7y ago

How is regulatory capture related to this?

jancsika 7y ago
Think of it as part of a "blues riff" where I noodled around at the end in a peculiar way as a signal that I'm not really a blues player. :)

rory096 7y ago

>The only reason the selected families moved to the better neighborhood is because a team of experts were paid to intervene on their behalf. >Unless such families make the effort to change their circumstance and save enough to move to the preferable area, programs like this one rob them of their free will. This is a bizarre claim. Participants were given advice, not forcibly relocated: >They would also be given information on which neighborhoods promise the most opportunity for their kids, based on the research data. They’d also be assigned “navigators” whose job it was to walk them through the apartment application process, and receive additional financial assistance with down payments if necessary.

em-bee 7y ago

> Real, lasting change only comes when people make conscious decisions to improve their lives with no external input whatsoever handed to them that doesn't sound right. most people want to improve their life. it's not about making the decision, but about knowing what steps to take to achieve it. and why wouldn't someone take help for that? you seem to think that making a conscious decision is all it takes. far from it. in particular, when the steps to achieve it involve time and effort that you don't seem to have time for. i made a conscious decision to increase my income years ago. it wasn't effective until i found partners who helped me get clients (iaw i found a sales person who would work by sharing profit instead of taking a salary), so that i could focus delivering the service.