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There are many hyper-local issues like this where the real solution involves: - actually wanting the problem to get solved - finding out, at a very micro-leve

There are many hyper-local issues like this where the real solution involves: - actually wanting the problem to get solved - finding out, at a very micro-level, how to solve it - deploying those seemingly unscalable resources towards solving the problem I suspect it will be more challenging to roll this out in a wider pilot and then city/state/nationwide because of bullet point #1.

Zanni 7y ago
Indeed. My understanding is that most socio-economic housing segregation is deliberate (on the part of those that can afford it). The ethno-racial segregation is a byproduct. Potential allies of reforming the latter are de facto opposition due to the former.
- roywiggins 7y ago
  Racial segregation in the US is at least partly a direct descendant of New Deal and postwar housing policy that mandated segregated housing projects. Segregation was a deliberate policy and a massive social engineering effort. There is nothing natural about the current amount of segregation in the US.
  - xbmcuser 7y ago
    Segregation happens naturally as well. In Singapore after few race violence instances government made it mandarory for all government provided housing have a similar make up as the population in general.
  - aaronbrethorst 7y ago
    Not a descendant. Redlining was explicitly part of the New Deal era’s HOLC’s mission. There’s a great podcast on the topic from a couple years ago here: https://castro.fm/episode/UxCiQp https://castro.fm/episode/UxCiQp Segregation was a deliberate policy and a massive social engineering effort Yep you got that right for sure.
em-bee 7y ago
it shouldn't be more challenging if each locality addresses this problem on their own on the local level. the problem with doing a nationwide campain is that they tend to be pushed from above with a one size fits all approach: if it worked in seattle, then it must work in miami. but really, each locality needs to approach this on their own and find a locally appropriate way to solve it. as you say finding out, at a very micro-level, how to solve it

Zanni 7y ago

Indeed. My understanding is that most socio-economic housing segregation is deliberate (on the part of those that can afford it). The ethno-racial segregation is a byproduct. Potential allies of reforming the latter are de facto opposition due to the former.

roywiggins 7y ago
Racial segregation in the US is at least partly a direct descendant of New Deal and postwar housing policy that mandated segregated housing projects. Segregation was a deliberate policy and a massive social engineering effort. There is nothing natural about the current amount of segregation in the US.
- xbmcuser 7y ago
  Segregation happens naturally as well. In Singapore after few race violence instances government made it mandarory for all government provided housing have a similar make up as the population in general.
- aaronbrethorst 7y ago
  Not a descendant. Redlining was explicitly part of the New Deal era’s HOLC’s mission. There’s a great podcast on the topic from a couple years ago here: https://castro.fm/episode/UxCiQp https://castro.fm/episode/UxCiQp Segregation was a deliberate policy and a massive social engineering effort Yep you got that right for sure.

em-bee 7y ago

it shouldn't be more challenging if each locality addresses this problem on their own on the local level. the problem with doing a nationwide campain is that they tend to be pushed from above with a one size fits all approach: if it worked in seattle, then it must work in miami. but really, each locality needs to approach this on their own and find a locally appropriate way to solve it. as you say finding out, at a very micro-level, how to solve it