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This has been fixed. French people won't get any new green cards. https://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/08/07/house-passes-zoe-lofgrens-bipartisan-green-card-bill

by top256 7y ago

This has been fixed. French people won't get any new green cards. https://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/08/07/house-passes-zoe-lofgrens-bipartisan-green-card-bill/ https://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/08/07/house-passes-zoe-lo...

digianarchist 7y ago
Erm the House passed the bill but it's unlikely to pass the Senate and even if it did I'd expect Trump to veto it.
belltaco 7y ago
It's nowhere close to actually becoming law. The El Paso shooter mentioned that proposed law in his manifesto as letting in many more new foreign workers after listening to fake news from Fox News and Breitbart, when it does nothing of that sort. Also that the Senate passed it. The last thing we want is more bad information.
notabot 7y ago
This is such a terrible "fix". “For the next 10 years, more than 90 percent of the employment-based green card will go to citizens of one country” This is so unfair to citizens of other countries. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Indian immigrants. What they've been through is not tenable in the slightest. I think lifting the cap all together will be a better solution for everyone?
- belltaco 7y ago
  >This is so unfair to citizens of other countries. Not sure how it's unfair. The bill has a clause that anyone currently waiting will not be impacted. >I think lifting the cap all together will be a better solution for everyone? Not sure if you're serious. Even adding a few new green cards is politically impossible in the current climate. Just imagine the attack ads on TV for the next election.
  - notabot 7y ago
    Yes. I'm at least half serious. 1. The system is unfair in the first place -- Indian's quota is not in proportion to their population. 2. The bill tries to flush the queue, that leads to: 2.1 The perpetuation of this unfair system. 2.2 Other people who will still use this system get unfairly treated. So I don't think this is a proper solution to this issue. If US really wants all the best and brightest, the cap should be lifted.
- dmaldona 7y ago
  I wish is not passed. But seems to have a lot of support: https://www.lanereport.com/115492/2019/07/the-bottom-line-business-community-urges-support-of-fairness-for-high-skilled-immigrants-act/ https://www.lanereport.com/115492/2019/07/the-bottom-line-bu... Really wonder who thought this was a great idea.
  - damnyou 7y ago
    In a zero-sum situation, it is important to have an equitable distribution of pain. Of course the cap should be abolished altogether, but while it exists the system is deeply unjust.
- stale2002 7y ago
  What? This fix literally makes everyone equal. Why should a person get priority just because they are from a certain country? Instead, everyone should be treated exactly the same. There is a saying about how treating people equally, looks like oppression to the people who were at the top before.
  - notabot 7y ago
    You made too many assumptions about me. I'm not at the top. I'm not even from the US.

by top256 7y ago

digianarchist 7y ago

Erm the House passed the bill but it's unlikely to pass the Senate and even if it did I'd expect Trump to veto it.

belltaco 7y ago

It's nowhere close to actually becoming law. The El Paso shooter mentioned that proposed law in his manifesto as letting in many more new foreign workers after listening to fake news from Fox News and Breitbart, when it does nothing of that sort. Also that the Senate passed it. The last thing we want is more bad information.

notabot 7y ago

This is such a terrible "fix". “For the next 10 years, more than 90 percent of the employment-based green card will go to citizens of one country” This is so unfair to citizens of other countries. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Indian immigrants. What they've been through is not tenable in the slightest. I think lifting the cap all together will be a better solution for everyone?

belltaco 7y ago
>This is so unfair to citizens of other countries. Not sure how it's unfair. The bill has a clause that anyone currently waiting will not be impacted. >I think lifting the cap all together will be a better solution for everyone? Not sure if you're serious. Even adding a few new green cards is politically impossible in the current climate. Just imagine the attack ads on TV for the next election.
- notabot 7y ago
  Yes. I'm at least half serious. 1. The system is unfair in the first place -- Indian's quota is not in proportion to their population. 2. The bill tries to flush the queue, that leads to: 2.1 The perpetuation of this unfair system. 2.2 Other people who will still use this system get unfairly treated. So I don't think this is a proper solution to this issue. If US really wants all the best and brightest, the cap should be lifted.
dmaldona 7y ago
I wish is not passed. But seems to have a lot of support: https://www.lanereport.com/115492/2019/07/the-bottom-line-business-community-urges-support-of-fairness-for-high-skilled-immigrants-act/ https://www.lanereport.com/115492/2019/07/the-bottom-line-bu... Really wonder who thought this was a great idea.
- damnyou 7y ago
  In a zero-sum situation, it is important to have an equitable distribution of pain. Of course the cap should be abolished altogether, but while it exists the system is deeply unjust.
stale2002 7y ago
What? This fix literally makes everyone equal. Why should a person get priority just because they are from a certain country? Instead, everyone should be treated exactly the same. There is a saying about how treating people equally, looks like oppression to the people who were at the top before.
- notabot 7y ago
  You made too many assumptions about me. I'm not at the top. I'm not even from the US.