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Why should anyone put their trust in what corporation say? They're an entity whose sole existence is to generate profit from employee labor. Not to mention Appl

Why should anyone put their trust in what corporation say? They're an entity whose sole existence is to generate profit from employee labor. Not to mention Apple has a 99% approval rate for h1b apps.

belltaco 7y ago
Because said corporations can move the same high paying jobs to Canada or India. Especially easier in these days where big companies are becoming more comfortable with people working from home and fully remote work. So instead of taxes and consumption happening in the USA, all that money will go offshore. Citizens' jobs will be affected too when new teams are set up offshore with people already up to speed on internal knowledge of IT systems. When they are already set up offshore and they look for new hires, do you think they will hire first in SV/NYC or in their Canada/India offices? Same with layoff preferences, they would prefer to lay off people in the more expensive location. And maybe hire someone new in the cheaper location. This will affect a lot of non-tech local jobs both at the company like HR and cafeteria, and jobs in the local economy. >Not to mention Apple has a 99% approval rate for h1b apps Then why do you think Tim Cook personally signed this letter? https://s3.amazonaws.com/brt.org/archive/letters/Immigration.Nielsen%20Letter%2008232018.pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/brt.org/archive/letters/Immigration... It isn't just about approval rates, it's about being able attract the best foreign talent, people being stuck in green card queue for a decade+ with no end in sight, not getting visas in consulates etc.
- povertyworld 7y ago
  Don't you think if those FAANG companies could offshore those jobs they would have already? You think they keep them in SV because they love paying some Javascript guy more than a dentist just so he can afford rent? Please.
  - ryanmarsh 7y ago
    Look at all the projection in this thread. I made a simple and true statement. Hacker News indeed
  - belltaco 7y ago
    What do you think will happen if they need to pay 900k/yr to get good engineers in SV? As the pay rises, the tendency and pressure to offshore increases. It will start slowly, but as more competitors do it, will accelerate. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/trumps-immigration-policies-give-vancouvers-tech-sector-an-extra-bump/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/trumps-immig...
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    - povertyworld 7y ago
      Maybe that's why IBM has been so incredibly successful after off shoring everything possible to India.

Why should anyone put their trust in what corporation say? They're an entity whose sole existence is to generate profit from employee labor. Not to mention Apple has a 99% approval rate for h1b apps.

belltaco 7y ago

Because said corporations can move the same high paying jobs to Canada or India. Especially easier in these days where big companies are becoming more comfortable with people working from home and fully remote work. So instead of taxes and consumption happening in the USA, all that money will go offshore. Citizens' jobs will be affected too when new teams are set up offshore with people already up to speed on internal knowledge of IT systems. When they are already set up offshore and they look for new hires, do you think they will hire first in SV/NYC or in their Canada/India offices? Same with layoff preferences, they would prefer to lay off people in the more expensive location. And maybe hire someone new in the cheaper location. This will affect a lot of non-tech local jobs both at the company like HR and cafeteria, and jobs in the local economy. >Not to mention Apple has a 99% approval rate for h1b apps Then why do you think Tim Cook personally signed this letter? https://s3.amazonaws.com/brt.org/archive/letters/Immigration.Nielsen%20Letter%2008232018.pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/brt.org/archive/letters/Immigration... It isn't just about approval rates, it's about being able attract the best foreign talent, people being stuck in green card queue for a decade+ with no end in sight, not getting visas in consulates etc.

povertyworld 7y ago
Don't you think if those FAANG companies could offshore those jobs they would have already? You think they keep them in SV because they love paying some Javascript guy more than a dentist just so he can afford rent? Please.
- ryanmarsh 7y ago
  Look at all the projection in this thread. I made a simple and true statement. Hacker News indeed
- belltaco 7y ago
  What do you think will happen if they need to pay 900k/yr to get good engineers in SV? As the pay rises, the tendency and pressure to offshore increases. It will start slowly, but as more competitors do it, will accelerate. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/trumps-immigration-policies-give-vancouvers-tech-sector-an-extra-bump/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/trumps-immig...
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  - povertyworld 7y ago
    Maybe that's why IBM has been so incredibly successful after off shoring everything possible to India.